Which heavyweight had the most dominating offense

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  1. Unforgiven

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    Rocky Marciano then.
     
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  2. Bummy Davis

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    Marciano.....one of the best 2 fisted offences and Joe Louis
     
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  3. junior-soprano

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    liston........
     
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  4. frankenfrank

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    What about Tua ? stronger than both.
     
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  5. Smith

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    :lol: Why is this Warren guy even allowed to post, he's ruining my daily read-up of the classic forum.

    Joe Louis can't body punch :rofl:rofl
     
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  6. Chris Warren

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    Smith why are you allowed to live? If you think Louis punched to the body better than Tyson or Foreman then you are beyond stupid. Joe Louis fought who? 190 pound cruiserweights? Foreman and Tyson fought true heavyweights and now smith is ignored
     
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  7. Chris Warren

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    And Frank Tua would be a good person to list
     
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  8. MesmerFrog

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    the question posed is awkward.

    most dominating as in completely taking over and suffocating fights with just their offense? i'd probably have to pick foreman as he had absolutely zero going for him other than offense.

    Fighters like Tyson and Louis were better offensively with faster hands and better technical ability, but they often used things like skill and defense to help them win fights.
     
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  9. Chris Warren

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    Exactly Mesmer and when I asked the question i said which heavyweight had power in both hands and were great working the body. If your best body punchers were over 170 pound guys then you werent fighting heavyweights. If you could only knock out bums then you shouldnt be on the list.

    You had to have power to knockout top level fighters who were heavyweights with either hand. Your body punches had to be powerful enough to gain respect after a few rounds not 10 rounds like Frazier had to do.,
     
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  10. Smith

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    :rofl:rofl:rofl
     
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  11. janitor

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    Well call me beyond stupid if you like but Joe Louis's body piunches were far more compact than Foreman or Tysons and that is the most important characteristic in a body puncher.

    Short and sweet.

    I also have to point out that Louis's biggest opponents were actualy bigger than Foreman and Tysons biggest oponents.

    When did Foreman or Tyson ever wreck a world class fighter the size of Buddy Baer with a single uppercut?
     
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  12. My2Sense

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    Max Baer
    Buddy Baer (twice)
    Galento
    Carnera
    Abe Simon (twice)
    Uzcudun

    ...all well over 190.
     
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  13. Chris Warren

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    Max Baer is a bum that is like somebody saying Monte Barrett fought Tye Fields because he was big so try again

    And Janitor i didnt ask you if you thought his punches looked better i said who body punchers were actually harder. Louis career was basically him fighting smaller fighters than himself. In Louis whole career i believe he fought maybe 5 or so black fighters?

    Foreman and Tyson fought far better fighters and both have higher ko percentages. If Foreman would of fought fat slobs like Tony Galento and Buddy Baer whis whole career he would of never lost
     
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  14. GPater11093

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    Max Bear GOAT
     
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  15. Chris Warren

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    And Janitor Buddy Baer was just big, he had no skill and I believe it took Louis alot of rounds to stop him. Gerry Cooney was about 6'6 230 and Foreman blew him away. Dino Dennis was about 6'4. Chuck Wepner was pretty big, Lou Savarase, Shannon Briggs, Ron Lyle were all big heavyweights.
     
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