To casually accept decisions and fights which are clearly wrong is ridiculous.I can't recall a boxing promoter that slams his own shows and performances by some of the participants like Dana White does. Give credit where credit is due.I prefer boxing but UFC is teaching boxing what it must do to improve the sport.:good
Because a SPORT is run by one FRANCHISE/BRAND right? Honestly i this kind of reasoning is utterly shambolic.
That's not the point.Promoters are promoters,regardless of the sport.Theyput on events for the consumers to purchase.Should the performance not be up to standard the promoter should apoligise to the paying customer and point out the difficientcies and promise to improve the product.UFC does this and boxing does not.Boxing takes the stand that this is just part of the game.I think this is utter bull**** and anyone who accepts this deserves to be ripped off and taken advantage of.
No that is VERY much the point. Your trying to put a simplistic spin on something that promoters have ZERO control over. The UFC is THEIR OWN PRODUCT that have to respect the interests of no one but themselves. Surely even you can see that. Boxing as a sport doesnt have that luxury and never will. Theres no way to compare and economic model like the UFC with the sport of boxing. Thats just assbackwards.
^^ Dude, we get it. Everytime I read your posts you refer to UFC AS A BRAND and boxing AS A SPORT. How many times do you plan on mentioning that?
You are right. UFC is one organisation. If Strikeforce, Affliction etc etc became big then the same battle between them will unfold like the battle between big promoters in boxing. Fights not happening, fighters jumping ship etc At present the UFC have a monopoly and everything they do benefits them. Arum does the same sort of in house quality fights. If he pretty much owned boxing ala UFC then he would do it on a bigger scale.
The UFC have refused to cross promote with ANY other organisations. They wouldnt even work with WAMMA to sanction fights for the overall good of all the organisations in MMA. They refused point blank to work with M1 even though Fedor was at stake. And yet "MMA fans" repeat the same tired lines that boxing can learn something from the UFC. Yeah sure it can.. :roll:
Look at the uproar when Top Rank won't work with Mayweather Promotions to make Mayweather v Pacquiao BUT when it's UFC not working with M1 there is no problem.
UFC fans seem to conviniently forget this fact. Boxing promotions work together ALL the time. There are some exceptions and occasionally a conflict of interests. The UFC though refuses point blank to work with anyone. How can that be for the best interests of MMA? And why do most seem to casually dismiss or forget this fact?
It's not just the promotions that have to work together it's the ABC's, they throw alot of wrenches in fights that could be made. I was reading a post in the boxing forum about how John ruiz might screw up the Valuev-Hay fight because they want to fight NV first. The last thing anyone wants to see is Valuev-Ruiz 3.
I totally agree. But the problem with that isnt actually the WBA. They couldnt care less what they sanction as they'll make a fee either way, and more so if Valuev Haye takes place. The problem is John Ruiz. The UFC wont have problems like that because none of their fighters are free agents and they dont have to worry about any 3rd party bodies when making a fight.
i couldnt even name you one boxer boxer annoncerz now thatz a whole other story dam how could i have missed that max idiot and harold letterman and his dam daughter burn the lot i say !!!
The UFC have a monopoly on MMA and working with anyone else endangers that. They said they wanted to keep Pride running as a seperate entity but I think that is bull****. They wrapped that **** up, took their fighters, unified the champs and now Pride is a memory other than a few former Pride people creating Dream. All this enhanced their chokehold on the game.
The word is PRIDE was a dead weight and not cost effective for them to run.. Who knows im not privvy to the UFC's balance sheet but il take that with a scoop of salt. Funny thing is now the UFC is rerunning all the PRIDE footage they bought in the hope of garnering more fans. Its just one massive PR gimmick. It would have been better in the long term for both organisations to co-exist together though. I cant see DREAM being around for long because there stable is sooo thin and there recycling the dregs of whats left.