Is This Man the Greatest Bantam Of All time?

They reckon Jofre was the '60s bantamweight version of Ray Robinson. From what I've seen I think I'd agree.

He's definitely in contention for a 'best of the best' induction.

 

It's really hard to say. I wish there was more footage of him. Unfortunate that of only 3 films of him that I know about 2 of them are his only defeats. Looking at the Olivares/ Rose fight it is hard to see anyone living with him at his prime. As we know though styles make fights as Chucho Castillo showed.
How would Jofre deal with 69 Olivares? What would he bring?

 

I think so, but that still wouldn't necessarily make him the greatest. He'd still have to contend with Ortiz, Brown, Dixon, and Herman. Not so sure how those fights would go.

 

I think he brings everything that Castillo and Herrera brought, and some more.

He should be tough enough and skilled enough to withstand Olivares' "fury" and then turn it back against him, for a late stoppage win IMO.

 

Certainly a level above Zarate IMO.

Him and Ruben have duked it out for my no1 spot for as long as Ive known about them. Ive always kind of sided with Eder though as I think because I sort of feel the need to compensate for the fact I know I have a huge bias when it comes to Olivares.

From what little film Ive seen of him though he certainly deserves the spot..at least I think he would be equal first with Olivares.

 

I would say he was a better fighter than either Castillo and Herrera who didn't IMO opinion beat the peak Olivares but I think I would fancy Olivares. I think Jofre had a problem keeping Harada off him and got dragged into his type of fight. Rose had the style to beat Harada by counterpunching and beating him to the punch. Castillo had the style to beat Ruben with a brilliant display of counterpunching in the second fight. I see Jofre struggling to keep Ruben off him and getting dragged into a war. He's only gonna come off second best to the big punching Olivares.
Could be being a bit unfair here comparing the Jofre of the Harada fights, some might say this wasn't a peak Jofre and he was struggling with the weight but he seemed to go the full 15 at a fast pace in both fights and was still a force nearly 10 years later. I'm not saying that Harada and Olivares had similar styles but they were both good at imposing their offensive styles on their opponents..

 

:thumbsupexcellent post. even though slightly past peak and weight drained, than jofre gives a good indication of the TYPE of fighter that could get to him: a headfirst, aggressive whirlwind puncher. olivares however was more than that. the man could BOX when he had to and was the divisions most powerful hitter ever, bar none. the only thing i think harada had that worked for him in those fights possibly better than ruben was his jab (which in those fights, rates as one of my favourite ever). ruben had much, much more power and used it with skill. while i don't know who would win, olivares at his peak would trouble jofre to no end

 

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:goodyes that is more or less what I'm saying. Both of them great offensive boxers with a lot more to go with it in different ways. I agree with you about Harada's jab he was a lot better boxer than sometimes given credit for. You don't beat Jofre by just swarming all over him.
I was watching Sung Kil Moon yesterday who I rate as a good fighter but as swarming fighters go he wasn't anywhere as near the complete fighter that Harada was.

 

bad ass picture.

 

Which one?

 

:deal

 

But you could apply the same logic to Olivares in his losses Castillo and Herrera - an aggressive technician who could step inside his looping punches and work his body can beat him. Harada didn't simply outhustle Jofre either, he also held and wrestled like crazy, and even then just barely eeked out two close, perhaps debatable decisions. Olivares was stopped by both Castillo and Herrera, and in the first Herrera fight he appeared to almost fold or quit. I would say Olivares' losses revealed more weaknesses than Jofre's did.