Please Participate--All-Time Middleweight Survey--POLL CLOSED!

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  1. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    EDIT: Deadline will be extended until September 21.

    Same deal as with the heavyweight & light heavyweight divisions. I will keep this one going until September 20 (give or take, but make that the tentative deadline for now).

    Scoring system is as follows:

    25 points for your #1 guy
    15 for #2
    12 for #3
    10 for #4
    8 for #5
    5 for #6
    4 for #7
    3 for #8
    2 for #9
    1 for #10

    Please make a list of TEN FIGHTERS.

    Anyway, here's my list to start things off:

    1. Marvin Hagler
    2. Carlos Monzon
    3. Harry Greb
    4. Sugar Ray Robinson
    5. Bernard Hopkins
    6. Charles Burley
    7. Stan Ketchel
    8. Jake Lamotta
    9. Tiger Flowers
    10. Mickey Walker

    (*****No ties please, just a straight forward top TEN)

    :smoke
     
    Rumsfeld, Aug 25, 2009
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  2. WhataRock

    WhataRock Loyal Member Full Member

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    First draft off the top of my head.

    1. Harry Greb
    2. Carlos Monzon
    3. Marvin Hagler
    4. Ray Robinson
    5. Stanley Ketchel
    6. Bernard Hopkins
    7. Dick Tiger
    8. Bob Fitzsimmons
    9. Charley Burley
    10. Mickey Walker
     
    WhataRock, Aug 25, 2009
    WhataRock, Aug 25, 2009
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  3. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    I love the idea of this merely being a draft. Reminds me of when McGrain said that coming up with a middleweight list is as frustrating as doing a tax return.

    :lol:

    Now, I'm the first to admit that there are a lot of guys around here in the Classic Forum who are far more knowledgeable than me, but that looks like a pretty solid list to me.

    :good
     
    Rumsfeld, Aug 25, 2009
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  4. WhataRock

    WhataRock Loyal Member Full Member

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    That took me about 30 secs...then about 5 mins of staring at it thinking "****, that doesnt look right".

    But then I left it...dont really have the time right now to research it to the degree I like, which isnt a hell of a lot but more then just a hastily compiled group of names.

    It probably wont change a hell of a lot to tell you the truth because it is frustrating making one..given the long history of the division and the lack of footage available of many of the greats. If I change one, then I have to change another for the same reasoning and then it all goes to ****. :lol:

    Im fairly confident of my top 4 anyway.
     
    WhataRock, Aug 25, 2009
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  5. My2Sense

    My2Sense Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    1. Robinson
    2. Greb
    3. Monzon
    4. Hagler
    5. Tiger
    6. Burley
    7. Hopkins
    8. Fitzsimmons
    9. Walker
    10. Flowers
     
    My2Sense, Aug 25, 2009
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  6. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    1.Marvin Hagler
    2.Carlos Monzon
    3.Harry Greb
    4.Sugar Ray Robinson
    5.Bernard Hopkins
    6.Mickey Walker
    7.Bob Fitzimmons
    8.Marcel Cerdan
    9.Dick Tiger
    10.Stankey Ketchel
     
    dmt, Aug 25, 2009
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  7. Ezzard

    Ezzard Well-Known Member Full Member

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    1 Greb
    2 Monzon
    3 Robinson
    4 Hagler
    5 Ketchel
    6 Tiger
    7 Burley
    8 Fitzsimmons
    9 Hopkins
    10 Marshall
     
    Ezzard, Aug 26, 2009
    Ezzard, Aug 26, 2009
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  8. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    A very hard task.

    1. Monzon
    2. Greb
    3. Jones
    4. Hopkins
    5. Hagler
    6. Fitzsimmons
    7. Robinson
    8. Cerdan
    9. Walker
    10.Tiger
     
    ChrisPontius, Aug 26, 2009
    ChrisPontius, Aug 26, 2009
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  9. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    And then some.

    Not to pick on you Chris, by why no Holman Williams? His resume basically pisses all over most of these guys.
     
    McGrain, Aug 26, 2009
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  10. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    01 - Harry Greb
    02 - Sugar Ray Robinson
    03 - Carlos Monzon
    04 - Marvin Hagler
    05 - Holman Williams
    06 - Bernard Hopkins
    07 - Charley Burley
    08 - Tiger Flowers
    09 - Mickey Walker
    10 - Dick Tiger

    For what it's worth.
     
    McGrain, Aug 26, 2009
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  11. Manassa

    Manassa - banned

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    1. Harry Greb
    2. Carlos Monzon
    3. Marvin Hagler
    4. Ray Robinson
    5. Bernard Hopkins
    6. Dick Tiger
    7. Tiger Flowers
    8. Charley Burley
    9. Joey Giardello
    10. Jake LaMotta
     
    Manassa, Aug 26, 2009
    Manassa, Aug 26, 2009
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  12. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    1Greb
    2 Robinson
    3Monzon
    4 Hagler
    5 Ketchel
    6Walker
    7 Burley
    8Tiger
    9 Hopkins
    10 Lamotta [List has been amended]

    How do you rate this division? How do you leave guys like Giardello out?
    More to the point, how did I leave Hopkins out!
     
    mcvey, Aug 26, 2009
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  13. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    Then why don't you have him at #1?
     
    ChrisPontius, Aug 26, 2009
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  14. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Well most and all isn't the same thing.
     
    McGrain, Aug 26, 2009
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  15. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    There have so many great middleweights; by including one you're always doing an other a disfavor. Maybe i should've included him, but i think my choice are more than justify-able.
     
    ChrisPontius, Aug 26, 2009
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