I dont blame anybody for following MMA and not Boxing

Are you suggesting that boxing promoters do not have control over what they pay the fighters and how they market the event?That is just nonsense.Suggesting that MMA is not a sport is silly.The fact you say the UFC is a brand and therefor is not responsible to anyone but themselves makes their position even harder ,not easier.A few miss steps and they would be out of biz.Why is it that defend the boxing promoter if he is too stupid to take care of his product and overpays for the event,and yet **** on the UFC for making very astute decisions and taking the money to banks in car loads.Did Don King,years ago not have a monopoly on the heavy title as well as taking most of the tv dates,freezing out the majority of promoters?GBP is currently attempting to do the same.Jusy my opinion but it seems to me that the UFC should be applauded for their remarkable efforts and stratagy-something boxing could learn from.The proof is in the profits-on a monthly basis,not a yearly basis.

 

You have basic comprehensions skills no? Learn to read. I never once said MMA is NOT A SPORT. I said the UFC is NOT a sport. It is not because it is a BRAND that operates within the sport of MMA.

 

Tomatoe -tomato.Your nitpicking and attempting to skewer the UFC is so obvious and biased it has jealousy and envy written all over it.So,then,by your standards Top Rank,GBP,Don King,etc are also "brands" working within the sport as well.Big ****ing revelation.atsch
Bottom line is the UFC has taken over the "combat sports" world in terms of marketing,revenues and big name attractions,with a President in Dana White who takes responsibilty for his events.
Get it?Good.:deal

 

Thats just absolute rubbish. You cant seem to grasp the basic concept of a sport vs a promotional brand and the much finer intricacies involved in boxing than the UFC in regards to HOW fights are out together and promoted. You laud the UFC as a standard that boxing should adhere to and yet the UFC refuses point blank to work with ANY OTHER organisation be it a promotion or a sanctioning body. Yes i can see your logic now.

 

The UFC doesn't have to cross promote with another organisation,so why they should they?They have the superior product and the bottom line tells them that.They have attempted to secure the services of other than UFC fighters to no avail.Why?Simply because the rightsholder of the other fighter wants a piece of UFC's action without ever having contributed to the UFC organisation.Your logic holds no merit what so ever.
Simply put,the UFC prefers to promote by themselves,since when is this a criminal act?Affliction tried and failed to compete and others will follow.Don't blame the UFC for it's success.

 

FOR EXAMPLE doesn't the ABC's choose the judges in boxing but UFC choose the judges for their title fights?!?!

 

that's usually your best response when someone makes a good point or arguement towards you.

 

Don't worry my friend,we are all used to his rants and his one way point of views.This is the only way he can respond to logic.:good

 

Yaaaaaaaaawn. Thats my response because the point was laughable and not even worthy of debating ad naseum. No one rattled your cage. If you have something to add to the debate seeing as your a UFC employee then please do. Otherwise wind your neck in. Iv made my point ad infinitum i dont have to repeat myself if "fans" like yourself arent capable of understanding basic concepts as a SPORT vs a Promotion.

 

What?

Boxing is a sport. Why should a promoter apologize if 2 fighters just so happen to put on a boring show? Thats not his problem.

You dont see David Stern or Roger Goodell coming out bashing the Super Bowl or the NBA finals if it didnt meet expectations. Athletes/fighters do what they do to win, if it wasnt exciting, its not their problem.

They dont have to apologize at all. The fact that Dana does this makes him an idiot and its frankly embarassing.

 

That's naive. Boxing and MMA are sports, true. But this isn't the olympics, this is a professional sport and it requires fans that want to watch it. Boxing and MMA are also businesses. When the NHL started losing tons of fans, they changed the rules so there would be more scoring. The NFL a few years ago changed a rule that affects pass interference, helping Peyton Manning throw for more touchdowns than any QB in one season.

It is an athlete's problem if a fight isn't exciting. Look at Lyoto Machida for instance. People thought he was NEVER going to get a title shot just because he was so boring. A win is almost always better for a fighter than a loss, but a spectacular fight that happens to be a loss can be as good for a fighters fan base (and therefore, perhaps, his future salary) as a very boring win.

 

Note the NBA NFL are governing leagues. Boxing as a sport has no governance. But the fighters of old knew that if they didnt put on a show a portion of their purse was witheld. PRIDE used to do that with the yellow card and red card.

 

Yes,God forbid a promoter taking responsibility for the product they present to the PAYING public.atsch

 

This is very true, MMA fighter's don't seem to worry about protecting a 0 in their losses column as much because they know if they put on a good show they'll be back in the UFC/Pride.

Unfortunetly in boxing, if a top fighter loses a fight people are calling for his retirement.