On Jim Jeffries 75th birthday he was interviewed by Fleischer

Was boxing and wrestling (greco and Freestyle) in the Olympics back then, also? :admin

How about the weight lifting records, is he a chance at these? Did the US win the 4 X 100? Or would they likely have with Jeffries. And i wonder how his 200m and 400m records held up. Michael Phelps' world record haul must have been in serious danger if jeffries attended the Olympics! Any other sports he could have excelled in back in them days (Shooting maybe, i heard he once carried a deer miles and miles on a shooting trip) was that an olympic sport then?

In all seriousness, the olympics were not the world championships ultimate test in those days, so it is not totally unlikely that Jeffries would have won some of these medals. It may even have been unfair because he would have been a professional competing against amateurs. Certainly, many of the lighter boxers would start favourite in the distance events.

 

Apparently dumbasses didn't read my earlier posts.

Thank god I haven't too much time to read this ****.

 

The difference between books such as In This Corner and Durant's book is that the former has TAPED interviews,with corrections in italics from the author Pete Heller.
Have you read Durant's book from which you so confidently quote ?
If you have perhaps you will tell us all from where Durant obtained his statistics of Jeffries track accomplishments?
As to Jeffries playing minor Baseball,not a huge wow factor there atsch
I am surprised Durant did not write about that ,given that was his primary sports subject.

I DON'T NEED TO DIG ANYWHERE
.I'M NOT THE ONE SPOUTING THESE STATS,AND MAKING PREDICTIONS ON THEIR BASIS.
YOU ARE.

YOU NEED TO SHOW THE FORUM A PRIMARY SOURCE THAT HAS PROOF OF THEM ,NOT A LINE THAT A WRITER PUT IN A BOOK .

Do that and I will be the first to agree with you.

GOD ! How it must have wounded you that Jeffries finished so far down the ranks of the all time best heavyweights.

 

Jim Jeffries was a decent athlete, but I dont know how relevant that is.
He was a great fighter, regardless.
I've heard that Muhammad Ali was slow in the 100 metres but he was great athletically as a boxer, and exceptionally fast too.
Like someone said, Joe Frazier couldn't swim, nor could he do anything approaching a good overhead barbell press, but he could fight.

 

That's why I have you in my top 20 heavyweights of all-time ! :good


I'm interested. What were your PBs in track and field ?

 

I'm confident he was a decent athlete,but to state he would have won two gold medals perhaps more, on the basis of an unsubstantiated passage in a book written 70 years ago is "gilding the lilly" dont you think, ?
If Mendoza can produce PROOF of the times he mentioned I will agree with is claims, fair enough?
As to what relevance a boxers accomplishments in other areas of sport have to his boxing ability,I would say NONE, with the possible exception of wrestling ,if we are talking old time fighters.

One boxer who excelled in various sports against other sportsmen was John Conteh ,who won an event called Superstars some years ago,as has been mentioned Frazier put forth a dismal effort in the weight lifting and swimming, in the same show [different competitors].I believe Frazier's lack of technique hurt him in the lifting.
Conteh beat a good field of athletes from varying disciplines,but NO ONE ever said he would have won two or more gold medals.
PS.There are pictures of a young Ali ," training underwater", total bull**** he can't swim.

 

As far as I'm concerned claims of times and distances outside of official competitions are pretty hard to substantiate anyway, though perhaps Jeffries did set these times and heights in official track meets. Like you, I await further evidence.

Same with all the claims of Bench Press numbers and stuff you see people repeating these days. Unless I see it myself or see it was record in official competition or by acceptable witnesses I take it with a pinch of salt. I've seen enough people in the gym and on youtube cheating with the exercises. And boxers and their trainers are bound to exaggerate their prowess in training (whether it running 10 miles every day, or doing 1000 press-ups, or a 450 pound Bench press), it shouldn't be believed on face-value.

 

I totally agree,claims like running 9 miles , though a forest, without stopping , carrying a deer on your shoulders are just stories, but some fans beleive what they want to beleive.

There are various stories of Sullivan lifting a tram back on the tracks,Jeffries lifting autos off of people,these stories belong with the tales of Paul Bunyon and Davy Crockett.

 

I think actually Ali had decent running speed as a young man. The story I have heard is that he couldn't believe that Wilma Rudolph, the woman's olympic gold medalist in the 100 meters in 1960, could be faster than he was, and challenged her to a race. As a matter of fact, I have heard Wilma interviewed on this subject. Ali lost to Wilma. The story is that he had a crush on her. He was 18 at the time.

 

Where does Johnny Crocket fit in?

 

Exactly 95% of men lie about their bench press numbers, and physical process in any shape or form. Scientifically Jeffries is just the wrong shape to make these. LMAO 'he'd win at least 2 Olympic Gold Medals'

 

Davy Crockett "Born on a mountain top in Tennessee, killed him a bear when he was only three!"

 

If James Jackson Jeffries was alive today he would never go short of a blow job a quick visit on here would soon put that right.

 

Thes claims should be treated with caution but I have to be clear about one thing.

To assume that they are untrue, without furtehr analysis, because it suits your position, is every bit as crass as assuming that they are true because it suits your position.

 

The deer incident at least is fairly reliably documented.

Perhaps in 100 years time people will say that stories of Dean Karnazes running 130 miles without stopping belong with the tales of Paul Bunyon and Davy Crockett.

The obvious exception being that we live in an age where such things are easily recorded.