Anyone believe JMM is the Lb4Lb best boxer in the world?

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  1. JoeAverage

    JoeAverage Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Of course not.

    Just take a look at his fight with limited Diaz. And so on. Nowhere near best p4p in a skills sense.
     
  2. lenzo

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    JMM was near the top several years back, but has aged and lost his speed and mobility. He's a shadow of his past and PBF knows it. I still hope Juan gets lucky against Floyd.
     
  3. PH|LLA

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    Like I said Cotto was top10 for some people after he beat Judah. I don't remember where I had him ranked but if not top10 then somewhere close.

    Here are the ring magazine top10 p4p rankings between the Cotto-Judah and Cotto-Mosley fights

    1 Floyd Mayweather Jr. 38-0
    2 Manny Pacquiao 45-3-2
    3 Juan Manuel Márquez 47-3-1
    4 Bernard Hopkins 48-4-1-1
    5 Israel Vazquez 42-4
    6 Ronald Wright 51-4-1
    7 Rafael Márquez 37-4
    8 Joe Calzaghe 43-0
    9 Ricky Hatton 43-0
    10 Miguel Angel Cotto 30-0

    As for Mosley struggling with Mayorga, I had it 7 rounds to 4 for Mosley going into the 12th, and then he knocked Mayorga the **** out. I thought he controlled that fight. And lets not forget that he also moved up in weight for that one.

    So I had Mosley near the top10 before he fought Margo, who was in the lower top10. Then Mosley chewed MArgo up and spit him out like a tomato can. That win was spectacular

    I think he's earned his #4 spot.
     
  4. eze

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  5. maryann

    maryann Well-Known Member Full Member

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    In fairness pac is no.1 jmm close no.2.
     
  6. PH|LLA

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  7. Boxing Fanatic

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    Anybody who almost had their ass handed to him like with the Diaz fight, is not the best p4p in the sport.
     
  8. VX.Nefarious

    VX.Nefarious Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    even with the error, the 1st fight was a god damn close fight, that could of gone either way:good
     
  9. Farmboxer

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    Marquez is good fighter, but too small for Void.
     
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  11. Rooney

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    Pac is nowhere near being the best boxer in the world.

    The best fighter maybe. But best boxer oh hell no....
     
  12. Rooney

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    I wonder what you guys will say if Pacman gets KO. Will you jump back on the cotto hype train?
     
  13. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    *******s like to point to the scoring error, but they always remain silent with the one judge in that fight that gave Pac a ridiculous 7 rounds to 5 score.......

    Only two people in this world gave Pac 7 rounds in his first fight with JMM, that one judge, and Harold Lederman.....
    ......I have'nt read a ******* post in this forum that had Pac winning anywhere close to 7 rounds against JMM in their first fight.......yet the ******* always points to the scoring error, but keeps silent on the outright corruption of a judge giving Pacquiao 7 rounds against JMM.:lol::!:
     
  14. buxzer

    buxzer Eastern Champ Full Member

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    Even if JMM upsets Floyd, I don't see Ring Magazine installing him as the new #1 P4P best boxer in the world...

    Right now, here's how I consider PAC, PBF and JMM P4P-wise...

    PAC - P4P no. 1 best boxer
    PBF - Emeritus P4P no. 1 best boxer
    JMM - P4P no. 2
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  15. pejevan

    pejevan inmate No. 1363917 Full Member

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    You could be so outright stupid sometimes. The judge who had Pac winning had it at 115-110, which means a 5 rounds win for JMM and a 7 rounds win for Pac with the first round as a 10-6. Now the judge who scored it for JMM had it at 115-110, which means a 10 round wins for JMM and 2 round wins for Pac with the first round as a 10-6 round. The third judge, judge Clements had it at 113-113, with the first round scored as 10-7 instead of 10-6. By the way, judge clements had it 7 rounds for JMM and 5 rounds for Pac.

    If you complain with regards to that first judge, you intentionally disregard the third judge who saw it as a 10-2 fight, the only score acceptable by a JMMTARD like you.

    When the first judge did not favor JMM, he becomes corrupt, but no mention of the third judge, who has the increduloud scorecard of 115-110.

    You seem to be an intelligent poster but your huggery sometimes cloud your arguments. Just like giving the JMM A 10-8 rouns in the 8th round of the second fight. There are only two persons nthis world who gave that 10-8 round to JMM, you and Nallege (I might be mistaken and my apologies if that is the case -and in that case then it is only you who scored it 10-8).Clear patteren emerging actually, if it benefits JMM, then all is clear and judges are impeccably clean and trustworthy. However, if it goes against the grain, then the judges are coruupt.

    It is easy to say they are corrupt but to prove it is different. On the other hand, Clemens admitted he scored the first round wrongly- that is undoubtedly documented and rightfully, Pac should have won nthe first fight as well.

    The judge who gave 7-5 to Pac is ridiculous but so was the judge who gave a 10-2 score for JMM. Bacsically that balanced it out with the third judge, judge cle3mens as the final arbiter. And you know the story.