HOW exactly could Marciano beat Tyson?

Excellent post. I'd have to favor Tyson initially, though. Without much hesitation.

Marciano would've caved both Ketchell and Langford's faces in, though.

 

Clearly this is the best of them all...

 

Marciano was right beside Ketchel when he got shot - Stanley said "I'd whoop you in half a round matey", then Marciano ran a mile in the other direction, crying. That was before Ketchel was killed.

Can't believe you guys haven't heard THAT one.

 

Ok, bare with me on this. First, of course on paper you'd have to favor Mike. But I'll offer something a little different. What Rocky had way over Mike was Faith, faith in himself, faith in life. Sound a little too esoteric and off point? Consider this: When a fighter is in moment of truth time, when he is taking three or four to every one he gives, when he's having trouble recalling just exactly what it was that told him he could prevail, when one split second, self defeating impulse can be fatal, this is where Rocky was so strong and Mike was so weak. Rocky believed in himself, whereas Tyson, smart enough to not miss the truth about himself, had real haunting doubts. You can't always turn that off when it matters. They can creep into your consciousness at the least opportune moments. Doubt can be a fighter's final undoing, and Mike had too many while Rocky had none, no defining ones anyway.

 

And in turn, here are some things for you to ignore.

1. Being in shape does not necessarily mean that a fighter will CHOOSE to perform well on fight night..... Heart and conditioning are not one in the same

2. Angelo Dundee and Gil Clancy on Tyson " if I were in there on that night, I would have slapped him on the head, and said " hold your head up, your a champion"

3. Tyson - " I didn't apply myself "


Now go watch the ****ing fight instead of using half ass comments to try and rewrite history!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Okay, but let's not forget that you were the one who accused me of ignoring testimonies, when you yourself were as guilty of the very same thing.

How is being in shape, the same as showing heart and giving it your best? IS this not what the argument was about?

Its not nonsense. You're only willing to give merit to the items that support your beliefs while throwing out the most important factor in the whole argument which is HOW TYSON ACTUALLY PERFORMED....

There is a difference between SEEING a fight and WATCHING one....

Who the **** started with who in the first place? You posted this comment without really addressing it to anyone, but it was clear as to who it was intended for.

One of the fighters!!?!?!?!?!? You mean the one who actually got his ASS KICKED!?!?!?!? Is this not a better testimony than that of a cornerman who's job was on the line, and was using a disolved bag of water to reduce swelling.. Who do you honestly award more credibility to????

 

Funny how so many people see this as an "obvious outcome" ie.win for Tyson, after all Marciano did in his career to prove how difficult he was to beat.

Stylistically, Tyson suits Marciano probably as much as vice versa. I've seen very little analysis in this thread.

 

Bring a gun into the ring.

 

In reality I think Tyson is too big, fast and strong for Marciano and would win with in 6 rounds. Marciano's greatest strenght was his determation. He could get up when knocked down. A very admrable trait but knockdowns count against you on the score cards. If he can make it all 12/15 rounds and out work Tyson enough to make up for at least one knockdown he could pull off a decision victory. He was also one of the best puncher's in the sport. If he could catch Tyson he might be able to get a t/ko victory for him self.