should the Cruiser Weight division be eliminated?

problem is, you can potentially make more money losing as a fat heavyweight than you can winning as an in-shape cruiserweight.

 

Why not change to a super hw division? Say 230 plus. Then the heavyweight division can be 200-230.

 

It would be incredible ! I can understand the guys making a case for how big the Heavyweights are today and if there's more and more fighters that are naturally 245-255, then its tough on the smaller ones that can't make 175...

Nonetheless, besides the heavyweight dilemna, I think it would make much more sense to have all the other divisions as it use to be in the past.

Less divisions, only one recognized champ per division and less PPV fights will bring back to boxing the occasional fans !

 

That's right ! Certainly not in a world where money is GOD....

 

Off with it's head.

Giants won't always reign in the heavyweight division, and the Cruiserweight's division existence creates the illusion that Cruiserweights wishing to move up and small heavyweights need to bulk up much more than they actually do to compete in the unlimited class.

When I hear about skeptics knocking David Haye, Steve Cunningham (potentially) and Adamek going to heavyweight, it tells me how scared people really are about good big fighters more than anything. Well, the Klitschkos and Lennox are HOF fighters and there's not a backlog of big talent ready to step up into those shoes. Not every big fighter is going to be as tough to beat as them, and it's unfair to them that size has become the cop-out.

They accomplished what they did because they're all great fighters with great work ethics- not because they were talentless giants who won only because of their size. The less talented big fighters would inevitably get beat by the smaller, more skilled fighters like it's always been throughout history.

Until that happens? Not only will we be deprived of moments like Dempsey-Willard, but something insidious happens- the weight excuse becomes an easy way to not give the big, great heavyweights their due as well as inspiring the last few generations of Heavyweights and Cruisers moving up (and probably future ones) to add size and bulk at all cost.

The sport suffers in such an environment. Even when Ali, Foreman, and Norton were fighting at 220 a number of contenders were smaller than what Cruiserweights weigh in on fight night now. When you've got Cruisers coming in at 210, 215 on fight night, there's no excuse for them not to be at Heavyweight.

 

Cruiserweight division is fine, as a matter fact they should move it up to 203.

 

Size matters, period. a good in shape 250 pounder who can properly deliver a punch is gonna be a lot more effective than the same type of fighters who weights 220. If it's 250 vs 190, the differnece would be ridiculous. how can people think there's no need for a division between lhw and hw?? they might even need to expand cw or create a shw divisiion eventually as there's more and more legit 250lbers plus

 

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We don't ask minimum weight fighters to fight middleweights do we??

 

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Fights like this would make cruiser very popular very quickly.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuQ0ruJOehw

 

You're right on that count.

Unfortunately, people vote with their dollars (or whatever their currency of choice may be)- and until the purses in that division get kicked up, the top dogs will always look at it as a stepping stone.

 

So where would your weight limit start, 175~?? The reason the Cruiserweight division was stretched to 200 pounds was for the smaller heavyweights, too small to be there but had a hard time making it to the 190's.... Also, once they become heavyweights, they gain unnecessary amount of weight...

Cruiserweight division is fine the way it is... Small heavyweights that can bang but have the speed of super middles....

NO SUPER HEAVYWEIGHT DIVISION~!! That's also a dumb idea... The best heavyweights these days are 240 and up... Gives fighters more of a reason to not train properly (Arreola, Solis, Toney, Peter, Estrada)...

 

so HW starting from 185 lb ... that would be mismatch if the guys at 190 lb must fight the guys like Wlad or Vitaly.

 

The problem is lack of the mayor TV interest so the top boxers are forced to move to HW.
The division would be exciting if guys like Haye and Adamek stay there longer and try to beat all available competition. If that happen TV would be more interested in broadcasting and higher payment .. someone must give up his private interest and fight for the CW commuminty.

 

They dont show many Cruiserweight fights on HBO or Showtime. But, when they do, they are anything but slow and boring. They are some of the best action packed fights in the past few years. They are what heavyweights used to be back in the day.

 

IMO the last great fighter to grace that division was Holyfield. I personally wouldn't mind seein' it done away with. It wouldn't hurt my feelings anyway.