How are Pac's wins over Morales 2,3 and MAB 2 rated so high?

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  1. Lakers2432

    Lakers2432 Active Member Full Member

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    Morales was shot to **** he lost to Diaz LOL. Diaz is know where near Morales level that shows how shot Morales was. He makes them look old because he usually fights them when their old lol
     
  2. Lakers2432

    Lakers2432 Active Member Full Member

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    Pac wasn't trying to take that fight right a way stop it.
     
  3. Chicagosown23

    Chicagosown23 Sportsologist Full Member

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    Quit tying to discredit Pacs acomplishments that's all u do....name 2 fighters better that MAB and Morales that mayweather beat
     
  4. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    That's totally right. Sometimes a great fighter can make another great fighter look bad. People tend to immediately say "shot" when a specific fighter they admire falls and falls hard in easy fashion against another fighter. It's not always because they're "shot", their opponent's ability and style should be considered.

    Whitaker made Chavez look terrible and beat him 10 rounds to 2, doest that mean Chavez is "shot" or is a terrible fighter?, don't think so. Certain styles can make ANY figher look bad.
     
  5. enzo

    enzo Greatest Of All Time Full Member

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    MAB 2 was the same MAB that KD and gave JMM hell.

    EM 2 - Erik beat pac the last time and he avenge that by TKO (first time)

    EM 3 - Pac beat the **** out and made erik quit (first time)
     
  6. Lakers2432

    Lakers2432 Active Member Full Member

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    Morales won that first fight comfortable. Thats why the last round he was like **** it lets just brawl in the last round because Pac needed a KO to win and it wasn't happening. What about Pac's resume am I missing. All I am saying is for beating fighters that were coming off losses and no longer in their primes thats a lot of credit being given.
     
  7. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    That's your personal opinion then and I respect that. Can't add more to change your mind other than Morales looked actually ver good and was giving Pac trouble early and nearly knocked him down with a single clean shot. A past prime fighter can't do that to someone in Pac's class. It's like saying "If Morales wasn't beyond shot Pac would be iced quickly and easily".
     
  8. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Of course PAC can't fight every great fighter in their "Physical Primes". That's just impossible. But fighting a fighter who is in their Physical Prime doesn't necessiarly mean you are facing the best version of that fighter.

    EM, MAB and JMM when PAC first faced them were just past their Physical primes, but in terms of their overall worth at the time, PAC faced the very best versions of the 3 mexican greats.
     
  9. Zavy

    Zavy A fan among experts Full Member

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    If they weren't great at the time, then that takes away from the win...how do you think that Pac would have faired against these twon when they were great?
     
  10. Lakers2432

    Lakers2432 Active Member Full Member

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    No discredit. Am I lying when I say Pac beat Morales when Morales was coming off a loss? NO. Am I lying when I say MAB was past his prime? No again. How you going to be in your prime and David Diaz beat you lol. They were both coming off losses how to fighters they would never lose to in their prime lol. Get off Pac nuts and go look at the cicumstances when them fights went down lol.

    What fights did Mayweather have against fighters coming off a loss that people consider great lol. Chico undefeated and in his prime. Castillo first fight in new division against the champ. Peopld didn't think he beat him convincingly so rematch right a way and beat him again so people would shut up. May didn't wait for Castillo to lose first. Hernandez Genaro only one loss at the time to De la Hoya for his first title! Mayweather clearly has beat mor fighters in their prime then Pac stop it. What was the last division Pac cleaned out and dominated? 126 maybe lol just stop. Just state facts. Don't get hurt feelings when you hear facts. Get mad when someone makes something up:hi:
     
  11. Lakers2432

    Lakers2432 Active Member Full Member

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    LOL:lol::lol::lol::lol: Stop it they weren't in their primes. Marquez yes and that was a draw. The 2nd fight does any one really know who won lol? You wouldn't know on these forms so that couldn't of been a dominant win.
     
  12. RomperStomper

    RomperStomper Active Member Full Member

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    I don't give out the shot excuse as quickly as most but I gotta say Morales showed he was no longer the same fighter in the Rahem fight. Then he went back down in weight and fought Pac a second time he still made it competitive and Pac has to be given credit he became a more complete fighter in that one and even a bit past it Morales is a good win but I dont give it knocking out Morales in his prime credit he didnt do that. ..Also past prime fighters can pull of those performances and be competitive on occasion don't forget Ali vs Frazier III.
     
  13. Lakers2432

    Lakers2432 Active Member Full Member

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    You know what I feel what you are saying with the 2nd fight. If pressed hard I understand the argument that can be made. Plus Pac avenged a loss so it's understandable.:good
     
  14. mantacougar1

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    fact is, a semi-shot morales still had enough in the tank to beat a young, fresh in his prime pacquiao. morales had already had too many wars including a very exhausting trilogy with barrera. for the morales/pacquiao II fight, morales was coming off a loss to raheem at 135 and had to kill himself to make the 130 lb. limit. the third morales fight was more evidence that morales was done a long time ago. so actually, pacquiao beat up on a very old (ring wise) fighter who had had his best days behind him. looks great on paper (name wise) but really isn't very impressive.
     
  15. Boom_Boom

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