Here We Go**UK & Ireland All Time Heavyweight Survey (poll NOW CLOSED)***

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by Smith, Aug 31, 2009.


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  1. essexboy

    essexboy The Cat Full Member

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    Fitzsimmons was best at middleweight but he still did far more at heavyweight than most of the guys you've listed.
     
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  2. kosaros

    kosaros Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    1. Lennox Lewis
    2. Bob Fitzsimmons
    3. Tommy Farr
    4. Joe Bugner
    5. Henry Cooper
    6. Frank Bruno
    7. Tom Sharkey
    8. Henry Akinwande
    9. Herbie Hide
    10. Bruce Woodcock
     
    kosaros, Aug 31, 2009
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  3. JonOli

    JonOli Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    To state the obvious: H2H, a 12 stone Fitzsimmons is going to get annihilated by an 18 stone Lewis or Bruno.

    Also, I think a lot of the Greatness attributed to Fitzsimmons is about his historic switch in weights, rather than his ability as a astronomical heavyweight.

    Still, there was only one HW world title back in those days and this man won it.
     
    JonOli, Aug 31, 2009
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  4. Smith

    Smith Monzon-like Full Member

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    Great stuff so far guys, I'm enjoying reading this. What GPater is doing is good too, sometimes things aren't as clean cut as you think and he is stirring a bit of debate, the main purpose of this thread along with the lists. A lot of the lists are good as well, if not all, for being such a small nation they are actually quite strong lists. I'm away back to work but i'll get mines up tomorrow.
     
    Smith, Aug 31, 2009
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  5. essexboy

    essexboy The Cat Full Member

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    Okay heres mine:

    1. Lennox Lewis
    2. Bob Fitzsimmons
    3. Tom Sharkey
    4. Tommy Farr
    5. Joe Bugner
    6. Henry Cooper
    7. Frank Bruno
    8. Bruce Woodcock
    9. Don Cockell
    10. Herbie Hide
     
    essexboy, Aug 31, 2009
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  6. brown bomber

    brown bomber 2010 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Appreciation of the early era explains Sharkey and Fitzsimmons but why on earth have you got Farr so high?
     
    brown bomber, Sep 1, 2009
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  7. brown bomber

    brown bomber 2010 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Its easy to clutch at names and go gypsy bob boner would beat Jack Fishface Fredricks from the 1800's please qualify what your claiming or its just a bunch of names in random order and defeats the objective of placing them properly.
     
    brown bomber, Sep 1, 2009
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  8. mckay_89

    mckay_89 Haw you! Full Member

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    Try saying that in the Classic forum, the only place in the world where 5'6" Sam Langford KO's both Wlad and Vitali on the same night :roll:
     
    mckay_89, Sep 1, 2009
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  9. doug.ie

    doug.ie 'Classic Boxing Society' Full Member

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    well, farr did come within a hair's breadth of beating one of the greatest heavyweight champions of all time in his prime....and on away ground
     
    doug.ie, Sep 1, 2009
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  10. icemax

    icemax Indian Red Full Member

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    Top 5 British heavyweights since the War...I won't do a top ten because there is every possibility that Richard Dunn would sneak onto the list, and that would just never do :-(

    1. Lennox
    2. Bruno
    3. Bugner
    4. Cooper
    5. Williams, Mason
     
    icemax, Sep 1, 2009
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  11. doug.ie

    doug.ie 'Classic Boxing Society' Full Member

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    again...why bugner above cooper ?...not saying i totally disagree, but i'd like to thrash that one out a bit.
     
    doug.ie, Sep 1, 2009
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  12. icemax

    icemax Indian Red Full Member

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    Going the distance with Frazier and Ali twice is way better than anything that Sir Henry ever achieved.
     
    icemax, Sep 1, 2009
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  13. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    What's wrong with Richard Dunn - apart from being from Bradford, of course ;)
     
    Beeston Brawler, Sep 1, 2009
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  14. doug.ie

    doug.ie 'Classic Boxing Society' Full Member

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    ok...noted.
    but...based on their fight...do you think bugner would have beaten a prime cooper?
     
    doug.ie, Sep 1, 2009
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  15. icemax

    icemax Indian Red Full Member

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    You really don't need to ask that question :hey
     
    icemax, Sep 1, 2009
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