Weight drained De la hoya or Coralles, whose win we should credit more?

eze,

i know, i know. maybe you and i can educate these *******s a little bit so they at least sound a little reasonable. some of their beliefs are outrageous and really troubling for us real boxing fans. sometimes i wonder what planet did these creeps come from?

 

your an idiot atsch

 

easily mayweather win. corrales was still young, dlh was 35. corrales continued to fight at 130 so as somebody already said, he was in that bad of shape at 130. dlh on the on the other hand hadnt fought at 147 in almost a decade, 8 years to be exact. not even close

 

Who is these people Oscar was old when he fought Floyd, but when he got to Pac not only was he old, but he was also weight drained clearly weight drained his own ****ing trainer admits to this as well.

However I will say this Pacquiaos win over Hatton was far more impressive than Floyds but in a desprate ***** style attempt to degrade that performance you all say Hatton was shot.

I would like you to prove that Hatton was shot when he fought manny pacquiao, None of you who claim this can prove this.

 

He wasn't drained.

He weighed 147 weeks before the fight. He actually weighed less than Pacquiao.

I've never said Hatton was shot, lying much?

While I do think he was on the decline, Pac's performance was still far better and greater than Mayweather.

 

Hatton was clearly not the same fighter.

FEW are after getting KTFO.:deal

 

What i just can't understand is why Nacho said Oscar had no problems with his training specifically with his weight (proof - Oscar had no problems whatsoever with the weigh-ins) while those who did not even witness Oscar's training, much more TRAINED OSCAR HIMSELF are saying otherwise. Who should people believe?

surely he could have said Oscar had problems with his weight during training (as an excuse) that even with one of the the best trainers like him, Oscar still lost instead said it was because of Pac.

Can someone please explain.

i thought it was the first few solid punches of pac that came through that made oscar look dead and afraid.

i know it's very easy and convenient to conclude that Oscar was absolutely weight drained, dead or finished as a fighter to explain why the totally one sided fight took place instead of saying that maybe Pac was really good that night. But what if Pac was really good that night? If only Nacho said Oscar had even the slightest problems in training, i could agree with what most people are saying.

 

Your saying DLH was not drained when he fought Pac? Cus I said he clearly was, perhaps your just misreading my ****...

Most of the Floyd boys you roll with also say Hatton was clearly shot, THere is no evidence that suggest this.

Pacs performance was better than Floyds against Hatton and its about time one of you see that

 

No he wasn't.

DLH weighed 147 weeks before the fight. He ACTUALLY weighed 147 fully re hydrated.

When I have ever said that? You lied blatently and said I said that.

Everyone sees it. But Floyd's style is not like Pac's.

He KOed Hatton on the back foot going backwards.

Pac KOed Hatton with what he calls the hardest shot he's ever thrown and landed.

 

I agree. I'm not some blind/delusional Pac fan. I'm just trying to point out what a lot of people don't know. Yes Corrales was in his prime, undefeated, and did fight again at 130. But what a lot of people don't know is that for whatever reason, Diego struggled to make weight for this particular fight and was not a 100% fighter when he faced Mayweather. Same with the Pac-De La Hoya fight, except Oscar was probably permanently shot, while Diego was shot for this one fight.

Which brings us back to the topic of this thread: Who's win should we credit more? You said above weight drained or not, Corrales was NOT going to beat Mayweather. I agree. But a healthy De La Hoya probably beats Pac, and I know you'd agree on that.

In summary:
Mayweather def. Corrales (weight drained) - like you said
Mayweather def. Corrales (healthy) - like you said

Pacquiao def. De La Hoya (weight drained)
De La Hoya (healthy) def. Pacquiao

So who's win should we credit more? You just gave your answer above. :good

 

First I will say Corrales-FMJ is greater. But for the poster above, werent you the one who was whining about the 2lbs catchweight fight of Cotta-Pac?

 

So eze your saying Oscar wasnt weight drained, wow and you have the nerve to talk as if you know something. Everybody including your boy FMJ says Oscar was....
So then since he wasnt in your eyes, that means Pacquiao did a better job in there than Floyd did with both DLH and Hatton correct?

 

goddamn we got us a ****ing journalist.

 

How can he educate them when he agrees that Oscar wasnt drained when he fought Manny Pac? I mean this is some **** the *******s will argue...:-(