Hatton and Calzaghe

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by UndisputedUK, Sep 2, 2009.


  1. UndisputedUK

    UndisputedUK Boxing Addict Full Member

    4,152
    1
    Feb 20, 2006
    Hatton and Calzaghe were at the top of British boxing.

    Best in their division for a while! (10 years in Calzaghe's case)

    Whilst Hatton was knocked out by two of the worlds greatest, Calzaghe overcome Jones and Hopkins at a weight above his main.

    Was Calazghe so much better to get out undefeated, or was it the elite level of competition that caused Hatton to lose and was it the lack of opposition that allowed Calzaghe to remain undefeated for so long?

    :?
     
  2. 'Ben'

    'Ben' Boxing Addict Full Member

    6,307
    1
    Mar 8, 2009
    Calzaghe was better than Hatton. I have no doubts about that at all.
     
  3. gungfu

    gungfu Well-Known Member Full Member

    2,658
    6
    Apr 27, 2009
    lack of opposition?
     
  4. UndisputedUK

    UndisputedUK Boxing Addict Full Member

    4,152
    1
    Feb 20, 2006
    What I meant was, 10 years without too much of a challenge and that he never faced a Pac or Mayweather (primes) equivalent in the 168lb division.
     
  5. ed7890

    ed7890 Col. Hunter Gathers Full Member

    8,170
    0
    Apr 4, 2009
    I think the main difference is Hatton's ambition. Take out the 2 losses, i think they're resume's are comparable.
     
  6. £4£

    £4£ Active Member Full Member

    1,332
    0
    Jan 16, 2009
    Calzaghe is no doubt the more talented boxer, He was more than capable of beating any opposition you could have put in front of him. Hatton on the other hand was always going to lose to the likes of Mayweather.
     
  7. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

    37,732
    1
    Apr 19, 2007
    Joe was and is better than Ricky
     
  8. ed7890

    ed7890 Col. Hunter Gathers Full Member

    8,170
    0
    Apr 4, 2009
    Check out the Hatton hype before the Mayweather fight. Then imagine that fight didnt happen.
     
  9. £4£

    £4£ Active Member Full Member

    1,332
    0
    Jan 16, 2009
    :huh why?
     
  10. Rangersfan1982

    Rangersfan1982 Boxing Addict Full Member

    3,832
    1
    May 28, 2009
    Hatton had the balls to go after the best fights. Thats why he had far more fans than Calzaghe. It's hard to say who had the best career. Both are good fighters in different ways.
     
  11. darthhutchence

    darthhutchence Well-Known Member Full Member

    2,505
    0
    Jun 20, 2009
    Calzaghe has twice the talent of Hatton, and twice the work ethic, look at a recent picture of fatton! Ricky Hatton= overated hype, he should be ranked all time right behind Collazo in the 100,216th spot!
     
  12. Hitman-Fan

    Hitman-Fan Boxing Addict Full Member

    3,431
    1
    May 27, 2009
    Both Great fighters

    Hatton fought the two best fighters of his generation and lost. There is no disgrace in that

    Calzaghe fought the two best fighters of his weight division of his generation and scraped through. The only hame is that he didnt beat Hopkin and RJJ when they were in there prime.

    Both products of being over protected by Frank Warren, at least Ricky got out of it early enough in order to have a crack at the two biggest names in boxing. Joe Bottled it until very late in his carrear.

    The fight that made Ricky was when he beat Kostya Tyuzu way earlier in his carrear than when Joe had his defining fight against Lacy

    If Joe wanted to be a British legend he should have pushed for better opponents earlier in his carrear, maybe then people in America would have warmed to him.

    Ricky set out to try and cement himself as a world great and he failed, but if he had not fought Mayweather, perhaps beat Magenalli and won the IBF, beat Witter for the WBC and then beaten Holt for the WBA (3 fights I have no doubt he would habe won) he would have an even better resume than Calzaghe does now. Surely then he would be listed higher than Calzaghe as a legend.

    the fights at 140 bored ricky, and he stepped up. Joe was in his comfort zome for years fighting Woodall, Omar Shieka and Charles Brewer. No one of any real class.

    Whn it all stacks up, Ricky could have remained undefeated easily. Just because he has 2 losses doesn't make him a worse fighter than Calzaghe. Ricky will go down at the best 140lb fighter ever and I hink Joe might get the best supermiddleweight ever.

    Based on level of opponents and the prospective levels of the fighters, Ricky is the better fighter. Kostya Tyuzu, Collazo, Mallegnaggi, Castillo far outweight Lacy, Bika, Kessler, an over the hill Bernard and an over the hill RJJ

    IN MY OPINION!
     
  13. Perky300

    Perky300 Member Full Member

    248
    0
    Jul 19, 2009
    Calzaghe by far has more skill and talent, looks after himself between camps...he just lacked the personality to get the american public and british somewhat to warm to him which would of given him a bigger following which then in turn could of landed him with some better fights....but i don't rate hatton as a good fighter, straight forward pressure (although i must admit i did like to see his fights in his early career, up to the tyszu fight)

    i remember hearing frank warren saying that calzaghe use to complain he wasn't gettin the big fights and hatton was and warren said this was because hatton was puttin the effort in to getting a following like doing after dinner speeches etc and joe wasn't
     
  14. thewoo

    thewoo Boxing Junkie Full Member

    7,769
    4
    Mar 3, 2005

    That is not why he had more fans. He had more fans because he's from manchester and had a strong following of soccer houligans, plus he scored more KO's
     
  15. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

    27,677
    184
    Apr 8, 2006
    If Calzaghe fought a Super Middleweight Version of Floyd and Pac in their primes he would've defeated as well. Hatton gets WAY too much criticism for losing to the the 2 BEST fighters of the past 10 years.