Brett Rogers: "Brock Lesnar Is Overrated"

My god, I hope, I HOPE you arent referring to Heath Herring. How long will it take you to admit Heath Herring was absolutely handpicked for Lesnar. How many wrestlers does Herring need to lose to?

 

Apparantly you've never seen his fights with Kerr or Erikson.

 

Actually I have. And apparently you never saw the fight with O'brien which is alot more RELEVANT than his fights with Kerr and Erikson.

Herring was blanketed the whole fight against a LHW O'Brien who doesnt have anywhere near the wrestling pedigree of a Brock Lesnar. Nor is he even close to Lesnars size and strength. And that fight WAS 10x more relevant for a Lesnar fight seeing as how those fights were literally a year apart.

And Herring/Erikson was essentially Erikson controlling Herring for the majority of the fight until both fighters stood up, old man Erikson was gassed and Herring landed a desperation knee, knocking out Erikson and winning the fight. The bottom line is that fight PROVED nothing for Herring. And does nothing to justify your ridiculous argument that he can fight wrestlers.

You just use absolutely no logic to defend Brock Lesnar. The fact you cant even admit Herring was handpicked for Lesnar is absurd. Why do you think the UFC tried to put Herring in there with Cain? Herring is just a tough, durable gatekeeper with limited skills.

 

Beebs.... those were a LONG time ago... Herring was a solid gatekeeper but that was it. Lets not talk up this win anything more than what it was.

 

Not only was it a long time ago but it absolutely proves nothing as to how Herring can do against Wrestlers. Herring got outwrestled, controlled by Erikson. He won that fight because of a standup and pulled a flying knee out of his ass for a quick KO. It doesnt take away the fact that against Erikson, Obrien and Lesnar hes been outwrestled, controlled for literally 98% of the time hes been in that ring/octagon.

And I havent seen Kerr/Herring in a long time but there are a variety of reasons as to why we shouldnt take that fight seriously.

And once again, Herring was going to be used against ANOTHER wrestler in Cain until Herring pulled out and an even WORSE grappler in Kongo took Herrings place.

You'd have to be a god damn idiot to not see what the hell is going on here. Is it just some coincidence that the UFC's best HW prospects who just so happen to be wrestlers are getting fed Heath Herring? Even a poo and ass, unproven striker in Duffee is calling out Heath Herring. Thats because everybody knows hes not good. In fact, UFC probably suggested Duffee call out Herring. Herring is literally a PERFECT gatekeeper. Hes experienced, hes tough, hes durable and hes fought literally all the best fighters in the sport. Unfortunately hes lost virtually all of them.

 

I'm well aware of how the fight with Erikson went, I wrote about it quite a bit before the fight.

The point is that he found a way to win; the fact that he wasn't going to be able to outwrestle Lesnar is not the point, nobody was going to be able to outwrestle Lesnar.

It was obviously a fight that the UFC thought Lesnar would win, but they picked a durable guy who has the ability to win fights despite being outwrestled. It wasn't a huge win, but it wasn't a walkover either.

Essentially it was a test to make sure Lesnar could turn all the potential he showed into a win; to make sure that he wasn't just a flash in the pan.

 

Yes Herring found a way to win against Erikson but the likelihood of doing that again is slim to none.

Herring doesnt have great skills on the feet and we obviously know what hes like on the ground. I'm quite confident the UFC were 99% sure this was an easy win. I mean the guy 15 months ago got mauled by a LHW in Jake O'Brien. And Herring literally mounted NO OFFENSE in that fight.

Lesnar beating Herring really proved next to nothing. The only thing it proved was that he could go 3 rounds

 

Herring was coming off a win over Kongo as well, in a fight where he also had to go to plans B and C, and got the better of the striking exchanges with a very good striker. He also was as close as anybody had ever been to knocking out Nog at that point. All of that combined shows he is a guy who will expose a mistake if you make one; even if he doesn't win he will usually show his opponent for what they are.

I clearly called Herring a journeyman, not a world beater; but that fight was not merely a walkover, if Lesnar wasn't for real it would have showed in one way or another, even if he ended up winning.

That fight proved quite a bit for Lesnar; like you said it showed he has a good gas tank for a huge guy, which is no trivial test, it showed that while his striking is limited it is very powerful and effective, that he could retain discipline rather than just go wild with wreckless agression, and it generally showed that the trouble he put Mir in was not just some flash in the pan ala Sapp vs Nog.

Record wise it was a just a solid notch in the belt over a guy who usually takes any mistake his opponents make and exposes it to the world.

"Eyeball test" wise it clearly showed the talent Lesnar has as a fighter.

 

didnt rogers claim to have knocked out lesnar in sparring

 

people in glass house's n all that!!

better to be overrated than not rated at all,which is how i rate rogers.