Some details off Jim Jeffries training for the second fight with Fitz

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  1. McGrain

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    The San Fransisco Call, July 23 1902.

    "Jeffries and Kennedy were at it hammer and tongs. Joe was pale but determined and he landed blows that would hurt any ordinary man. Jeff blocked many of the punches, but some landed. Jim would shake his head and bore in landing blows that made Kennedy wish he was resting. In the mix up Kennedy was turned completely around by a punch to the jaw. Joe came back to the attack and landed a right hand smash to Jeff's nose, drawing blood. Jeff laughed but it could be seen that he did not like it. Kennedy proved extremely clever. In fact he showed the better advantage than Jeffries. This, however, was due to the fact that Jeffries did not let out at full speed. If he had done so Joe probably would have jumped down the stairs to avoid punishment."

    The article also stresses that Jim was keen to have his sparring partners "fight him". He boxed 8 rounds with Kennedy and then another 8 with his brother. Some work out. "The champion worked rapidly. When it was all over he was breathing easily."

    Jeffries worked with weights before sparring and the crowd "marvelled at his great bulk. They watched his tremendous muscles brought into play every time he pulled the weight. He then worked the wrist machine...his forearms denoted tremendous strength.

    Jeffries was out on the road the day before, and did his ten miles without turning a hair."

    There is then a short interview with referee George Siler, who seemed to be favouring Fitz who had "held the champion too lightly...I feel certain Fitz will adopt different tactics...Fitz fought a poor fight, left himself wide open and was beaten...if he is anything like himself he will give Jeffries a hard battle."
     
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  3. janitor

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    It is curious that fighters of this period engaged in road work so close to the fight instead of resting up for the last few days.
     
  4. Muchmoore

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    Why's there no mention of him killing the deer, and then carrying it out himself for the 9 miles back to his camp :lol:

    Cool article though amigo, all jokes aside.
     
  5. Bad_Intentions

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    :rofl oh ****.
     
  6. McGrain

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    Roadwork?! This mad ******* is boxing sixteen hard rounds in the last few days!!!
     
  7. Unforgiven

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    That wasn't part of his training regimen, just something he did to unwind after training, like Lennox Lewis playing dominoes or chess. :D
     
  8. Unforgiven

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    I think Dempsey ran 5 miles in the sun on the morning of the Willard fight - which took place in the afternoon.
     
  9. McGrain

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    :lol:

    It's a nice story, but I don't believe it for a second. I'd need to see dual primary sources, not because you don't have credibility as a poster, at all, just because it's so ****ing crazy.
     
  10. janitor

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    I would be prepared to believe it but it is totaly in contrast with the ethos from the 30s up to the present day.
     
  11. McGrain

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    Five miles? In that sun? Even if it was a leisurely pace and an exceedingly fit man it would have a serious affect. You just struggle to get the water in. Dempsey looked as sharp as any fighter i've ever seen in Toledo.
     
  12. McGrain

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    This might interest given the topic off resting prior to a fight. This article is from the 8th, the day before the first Jeffries Fitzsimmons battle, and details his work from the seventh. The articles title is "Jeffries Lets Up In His Work" and was printed in The San Francisco Call:

    "Jeffries did light work today on account of the heat. This morning he punched the bag for half an hour then left for the beach a quarter of a mile away to cool off. Jeffries and his trainers posed in front of the Kinetoscope machine. Two sets of photographs were taken before the party adjourned to the beach."

    This picture is from around about this time, although the boys don't look dressed for the sun...

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    Serious men at serious work.

    "Jeffries was disposed to doing some light excersise, but his trainers advised him to lay off for the rest of the day and the Californian consented. Tonight he gave a boxing exhibition at the opera-house in connection with a comedy show. He was home and to bed by ten o'clock."


    Note Jeffries is winding down his training two days before the fight and also that he is discouraged form working in the sun. Anyone letting Dempsey run 5 miles a few hours before he gets in with Willard should be shot in the throat.
     
  13. Unforgiven

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    I think Dempsey said something like he cut his run short to 5 miles because of the heat that morning, speaking to the press just before the fight.
    I shall try to locate the primary source.
     
  14. he grant

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    I read in Dempse's book by his stepdaughter that he trained extra hartd the day of the fight ...
     
  15. janitor

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    Sounds like it could be a joke or mind games.