What Ruined / Ended Tysons Career?

That backhand he landed on Robin Givens

 

celtic,you are wrong in all respects, sir.
the peekaboo defensive style was developed, originally by and for floyd patterson. it served patterson well not for infighting, but as a tool for working from the outside and leeping in. in all the style is primitive, and smacks of dempsey.
marciano on the other hand was not wasting energy with side side head movement only to leep at his target. marciano got hit with shots that were negligible. if you don't see the defensive prowess in marciano style, youre just an average analyst. any charge you put against him would end up on the canvas.
you really think marciano just walked in with his hands down? and i'll bet you picked darchinyan to beat agbeko.

 

Gud Demato dying and then Don King getting his hooks in ruined Tyson

 

Marciano's defense was under rated by all but those who fought him. Tyson was a powerfull fighter that brought a lot to the table in terms of offense. That will take you a long way but if the effects of his offense were not felt early he was in for a long night. Tyson had some pretty big holes in his defensive game.
I believe it was the level of his competition that brought him down. Douglas was very movated for his big win. With his solid frame and fast hands he was landing flush right hands right up the middle and moving Tyson backwards. Holyfeld was again moving forward and catching Mike with very hard flush shots. Neither was going into the fight a looser both believed they had enough to win and they did.

 

Don King

 

nonsense . if tyson had so many holes in his defense how come no fighter was able to hit him until he abandoned the peek a boo defense. all his opponents who tyson beat with rooney said that tyson was very hard to hit . there is a reason why with rooney that tyson was never cut . its because of his impeccable defense . even his sparring partners couldnt find holes in his denfense when he was with rooney . the example you give with tysons porous defence was with douglas tyson was easy to hit in that fight because of no head movement . i have never heard any knowledgeable boxing trainer say marciano had a good defense and tyson had poor defense because its bull****. tyson was notorious for being hard to hit , marciano was notorious for being easy to hit thats why in many of his fights were won by being beaten to a bloody pulp and then turning the fight around with a knockout .

 

Clearly you only knew of Iron Mike post-Catskills.
You don't become as fast, as fit, or as technically sound as Mike Tyson was in his prime without having discipline. Mike's daily routine when fighting for the Catskills gym would have all these UFC and Pride fighters crying like little bitches.
Aside, without having a father figure, children are more susceptible to having aggression problems. Children need a father to whoop their ass when they get out of line.
There are plenty of things that killed Mike's career. I blame Robin Givens for being a snake of a ***** the most. Tyson KO Givens 1. Prenup that ****.

 

if you are to listen to some idiots on this thread it was the fact that tyson didnt possess marcianos defensive genius that killed his career . yeah the guy who bleed a gallon of blood every fight.

 

nonsense . if tyson had so many holes in his defense how come no fighter was able to hit him until he abandoned the peek a boo defense. all his opponents who tyson beat with rooney said that tyson was very hard to hit . there is a reason why with rooney that tyson was never cut . its because of his impeccable defense . even his sparring partners couldnt find holes in his denfense when he was with rooney . the example you give with tysons porous defence was with douglas tyson was easy to hit in that fight because of no head movement . i have never heard any knowledgeable boxing trainer say marciano had a good defense and tyson had poor defense because its bull****. tyson was notorious for being hard to hit , marciano was notorious for being easy to hit thats why in many of his fights were won by being beaten to a bloody pulp and then turning the fight around with a knockout .

 

dumbass, marciano defensive style allowed him to stand in close where he could and did score knockouts. tyson on the other hand employed the peekaboo defense throughout his career. he never dropped it as you suggest reffering to fights where his simple critics such as youself complain at his lack of head movement. as if side side head movement would have helped him against douglas. it didn't help him get in in the first two rounds, genius.
point blank peekaboo keeps a fighter deffended well enough on the outside but leaves him the task of having to leep in to strike. fine when he was fighting tomato cans, however never could have cut it against a lennox lewis, someone with a jab to exploit reach advantage. sorry dude leeping in with one punch at a time or marciano style dictating that your oponent go toe to toe. for the shorter boxer the answer should be clear.
maybe your eyes aren't keen enough to pick up the nuances of marcianos defense. i asure you it was the key.

 

Tyson began his downward slide when he fired his trainer, Kevin Rooney. Don King gave him a new trainer who Tyson just bossed around. The new trainer said Tyson never wanted to go running, and had trained poorly for his post-Spinks fights. That's why he looked so bad against Frank Bruno, and was KO'd by Buster Douglas. Rooney always made Tyson train seriously, following the guidelines set by Cus D'Amato. But Tyson chose to bring in a trainer who would let him party and take it easy. Tyson would have retired undefeated if he had kept Kevin Rooney.

 

i feel sorry for tyson bigtime.

he's a poster child for the importance of mental strength and discipline in boxing, and unfortunately, he lost all that without d'amato.

tyson was always going to be a little boy lost without d'amato..and i think thats really sad.

but at the same time, if any of you are taking up boxing - this is a BIBLE lesson.

 

listen you idiot tyson didnt just use headmovement to get inside . he worked his way in off the jab . yes tyson did move his head a bit against douglas but his timing was off . tysons head movement had a certain system and it also worked because of his timing and cat like reflexes . compare tysons elusiveness against holmes and tubbs to bruno and douglas no comparison . if you cant see the difference your an idiot . again if tysons defense was so wide open how come douglas was the only guy who was able to take advantage of it was he so much better than tubbs, tucker, biggs no he wasent . tyson was there to be hit that night . after tyson stopped dumped rooney he became much easier to hit even his sparring partners said so and and all boxing analyst said so to i suppose you know better those people . your the only person i have ever heard say that tyson had a wide open defense which goes to show what a clueless fool you are . even larry holmes a guy who is always putting down fighters said tyson was a very hard to hit a lot harder to hit than he would be . i will take his word over a clown like you any day .

 

will somebody please set this clown straight.

 

Trusting Don King with everything.