Frank Mir assessed

I like your assessment. mir was an up and down fighter, and he's still live, he very well could get another title shot before he's done.

trying to use him as a gatekeeper will be a difficult proposition, as he still can go through the gate himself.

 

In the pantheon of MMA greats, I'd put him roughly on the same level as Jack Sharkey in boxing. Great potential when he was "on", but circumstances prevented him from maintaining his talent at a high level consistently.

 

Mir is higher then a gatekeeper right now he has evolved his game with better conditioning and much improved striking. I dont care what happened 3-4 or more years ago im tired of hearing about it alright. You look at the Nog fight, a few moments of the 2nd Lesnar fight and alot of training videos ive seen this guys Muay Thai technique has improved greatly. Its nice and smooth and crisp now.

 

He's criminally underrated by some people, and it is almost universally Pride fanboys who refuse to give any credit to anything that happened outside of pride. It's transparent and pathetic.

 

Yaawn. Fedor Barnett CC Nog merrigoround... Tim vs Frank ad infinitum.. O yea and then AA :yep

 

It's actually very sad that alot of people don't appreciate Mir's talent. The guy is awesome when he's on his game. I read a post by someone else in another thread earlier I forgot who that wrote something like when Gonzaga is on he's a serious threat, well if that's the case then so is Mir. If Gonzaga is still excepted by most fans then why not Mir? He's been around longer and has shown he can come back from true adversity. It's almost like nobody cares the guy had his leg literally broken in half.

Minotauro gets a pass from a supposed Staph infection and injuries and that's **** that can't be proven, yet Mir had his leg broken. Alot of people like to say, that wasn't the real Minotauro that Mir beat, and constanly mention Mir to losing to Pe De Pano and Vera the way he did. Well that wasn't the real Mir either. I don't care what anybody says, the guy is awesome and he's gonna kick Kongo's ass and if Nog really wants it he's gonna get put down again.

 

I agree 100 percent. Frank could have been killed that night off the motorcycle accident. The guy broke his Femur and tore all the ligaments in his knee im sorry but thats a bit worse then staph. Frank was forced out of not only fighting but training for well over a year and the man got depressed pretty much some idiot who ran a red light took away the only thing Frank Mir knows. IMO he forced his comeback I mean for crying out loud he has his leg being held in place with screws and it gave out about 20 secounds into the Pay De Pano fight theres no way this guy was mentally or phyiscally ready to fight.

 

Am i the only one that thought the thread title said "Frank Mir Assassinated"?

 

He needs to beat somebody
nog clearly was out of it..
He beat lesnar.. but was getting the **** beat out of him and got a hail mary submission.

I really don't see him beating even Kongo.. and I'm no Kongo fan.
I think Cain would smash him.

 

Its sad that his win over nog doesnt get the credit it deserves..
nog didnt lose cause hes old he lost cause he was beaten.. mirs timing was beautiful that night and the reason nog looked awful was that mir made him look that way.
It was one of the great mma performances..

 

:think:huh

 

Frank Mir is one the same level as someone like Arlovski or Sylvia. Good enough to win a title at some point but not all that great.

 

Exactly. When people mention Pe De Pano now like he actually beat Mir at his best is really ridiculous and they make themselves look very foolish. If they fought again we wouldn't even have to say what would happen now. You can tell in the Dan Christensen fight that Mir pretty much gave up on himself. As an athlete mentally, he was pretty much done. The Christensen fight was the only win that he has that went to a decision and it was a boring fight. You can tell he fought just to fight and not really to win. Plus he was drinking alot back then because he was stressed out. Look at the shape Mir was in for that fight, it's very obvious he wasn't training the way he is now. He had to make HUGE adjustment to get back to what he was and he's actually better now than before when he broke Sylvia's arm. People just choose to ignore that and not wanna give him any credit.