De La Hoya, Trinidad, Mosley & Whitaker....Who has the BETTER resume????

Trindad ended Vargas' career.

Were all past it.

Now don't be a hypocrite.

If you think Oscar should have got the nod against Trinidad then you MUST also believe Ike should have got the nod against Oscar.

Ike gave Oscar a lesson in the Sweet Science...

 

Oscar LOST to Quartey - who nobody considers "great" last I checked
Vargas' career had already been ended by Trinidad
And a past his prime Sweet Pea made Oscar look like an amature.

Try again...

 

You hate Oscar don't ya.... Fact is he has the best resume out there, even with his losses.

 

Ummm, don't get your panties in a bunch.And although I like Cotto his technical skills, on the defensive side are lacking.
I've BEEN critical of my own countrymen, check my thread where I even questioned him using the same trainer after the Clottey fight. And his inability to clutch and hold. But pass that What I was eluding to earlier is spot on. You don't have to compare anything to anybody. The information is obvious to anyone who has two eyes. Look at boxrecs All-time rankings and who's in the top 10? Who, if anyone on these boards have questioned, specifically Blacks accomplishments as boxers ?? Can you find one? Your argument is null and void. No one on this board discredits a Black boxer or a PR boxer bc of their color. Their skills or lack thereof yes, but color has never been an issue. YOU tend to make it about color more than not. (i.e. previous threads discrediting Latino fighters and so on.) Your last point about Cotto is perfect! No need to mention him being Boricua, he just lacks some skills, LIKE ALL BOXERS THE WORLD OVER REGARDLESS OF RACE, COLOR OR CREED.

 

No.

Both Roy Jones and Bernard Hopkins have better resumes that dlh. So does Whitaker.

Oscar made a career out beating up on ole' men and Trinidad leftovers.

The Golden Girl's best win is over Vargas. The same Vargas who got CLIPPED by Tito.

Face the hard truth - de la Hoya is scared shitless by Tito - which is exactly why the rematch will NEVER happen.

Oscar ran like a ***** in the final rounds against Trinidad and deserved to get the "L" on his record. The Oscar nut drinkers can ***** and moan all they like - it doesn change the FACT.

Trinidad W12 de la Hoya

And the fight was held in Las Vegas which was essentially de la Hoya's backyard. de la Hoya nut drinkers NEVER bring up this simple FACT. Your boy lost to the better man that night - and Oscar's bestest friends in the world [the Vegas Judges who worked the fight] agreed.

Instead of the bitching and moaning why don't one of the de la Hoya nut drinkers produce a score card?

No way did Oscar win 7 rounds. Didn't happen.

 

WOW...This was actually an INTELLIGENT post!!! Well Done and Well Said.

Absolutely, I questioned a fighters on Cotto's resume along with his stamina and lack of defense...And I asked why is Juanma at 26-0 with a belt fighting a 26-12 fighter. Legitimate questions...I THOUGHT. Not to discredit..But looking for an answer that I thought knowledgeable fans could give me more insight.

Then after the enormous amount of threads of Questioning the resumes of ELITE-LEVEL MULTI-DIVION CHAMPION Black American fighters like Mosley, Mayweather, Hopkins, Jones and more...

Yet, I never see threads questioning the resumes of ANY latino fighter.
So I decided to questioned their resumes...

And here is the difference...

When Winky, Mosley, Hopkins, Mayweather, Leonard, Hearns...etc resumes are questioned...Their fans gives reasons and opinions on why thier resumes should not be questioned.

Yet when I (or anyone else) questioned a Latino Fighters resume...The response is always JUVENILE..."F**K You, Noobie, Kiss off, and the overwhelming favorite...RACIST!!!

Look, I get it...You love your fighters/athletes within your country/culture!!!
I love the fighters/athletes of whom I share a culture as well...along with several fighters of which we don't share a country or culture (Luis Collazo y Bredis Prescott in my top 5).

But if you have an enormous amount of knowledge about a fighter, his resume, promotion team, fighting style, strengths y weaknesses...why not share that knowledge...Instead of name calling, insults and profanity.

THE TRUE SIGN OF LACK OF INTELLIGENCE AND IMMATURITY IS THE INABILITY TO UNDERSTAND..."JUST BECAUSE WE DISAGREE, THERE IS NO NEED TO DISRESPECT".

 

and a cross-dresser

 

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Hopkins
Toney
Griffin
McCullum
Hill
Grant
Gonzalez
Harding
Lacey
Ruiz
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Hopkins

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Joppy
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Pavlik
Wright
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Really!?? Wow... So Mosley II, Gatti, Castillejo, Quartey, Ruelas, Paez, Forbes, Hernandez, Gonzalez, Carr, and Trinidad were all old or Tito's left overs eh? :roll:

What do you know about Oscar's best win. His best win could have been Quartey, Vargas, Trinidad, Mosley II, Chavez I, Whitaker. Take you pick douche bag.

The rematch never happened because Tito immediately ran to 154. Then Oscar offered Tito a 30 million contract including a rematch at 154, and Tito declined and counter offered 10 million for Oscar and a fight at 160, that was right after Oscar made 10 million fighting a tune up in Campas.

You ain't going to beat me in this debate kid, it is obvious I know more than you.

Oscar got on his bike in rounds 10, 11 and 12, and round 10 was the closest round of the fight. I suggest you watch it.

Again, your limited knowledge of the sport failed you in your ability to score a fight. Even if Oscar "ran" the last couple rounds there are 10 other rounds that need to be scored.

It's okay, you're learning. :good

The fight taking place in Vegas or even L.A. makes no difference. That has been debunked 3 times, twice vs Mosley, once vs Trinidad.

Bitching and moaning, you're the ONLY one sounding like a sour ***** in this thread, practically crying because someone posted a scorecard you didn't like. You're obviously a TROLL, and your posts prove your lack of understanding of this sport. You contribute nothing, and quite frankly, your pretty damn lame. You have not proven ANYTHING. YOU just got your ass owned, but your probably to dumb to realize it.

Even if you're sincere and you're part of the very few who scored it for Tito, to say that YOU cant make an argument to give Oscar 7 rounds, really shows your true colors. You are a biased HATER, or a borederline ****** nuthugger. Take your pick.

Play again.:good

 

Prescott, welcome back.

 

Oscar's got the best resume by a clear margin, even if Whitaker's the better fighter P4P. It's not that Pea didn't fight anyone who was available, it's that Oscar came up in a stronger period and still fought everyone he could. Mosley-Trinidad, I just can't get over that they never actually fought each other. I know Winky spoiled one planned meeting, but it's not like that's the only time that fight would've made sense. Out of all the excellent welterweights of the era, Oscar fought the most of them. He's also the only one who even fought guys like Quartey, who would've been a damned tough matchup for the others. And that's just at Welterweight and up.

 

All rate higher than;

The Trinidad fight and the Mosley rematch are fights that the Golden Girl LOST.

When will dlh nut drinkers come to terms with reality?

His best win was against a Trinidad leftover juiced up Fernando Vargas. The Trinidad fight and the Mosley rematch were LOSES.

Tito ran to 154?

You're kidding, right?

It is WELL documented that Trinidad was having problems making 147lbs as early as the Whitaker fight. IIRC, Trinidad stated that the dlh fight would be his last @ 147lbs. After the dlh track meet, Trinidad then proceded to move UP in weight and absolutely terrorize the 154lb division in a Tysonesque fashion. The Golden Girl wanted NO PARTS of Tito @ 154lbs as is cleary demonstrated by the fact that dlh only moved to the divison AFTER Tito moved up to 160.

Trinidad had Oscar on his bike as early as the 9th.

Would you care to produce a score card?

Like I said, produce a score card.

No way did dlh win 7 rounds. Didn't happen.

Context.

Up until the Trinidad fight, it was considered near impossible to win a decison against dlh in Vegas. dlh had received the benefit of wide score cards in what were realistically CLOSE fights with Whitaker and Quartey in Vegas. It speaks VOLUMES that Trinidad was able to get the W over the Golden Girl in Vegas with all of the judges cards in his favor.

Stop playing crazy.

Ok, Genius.

Produce a score card for Trinidad de la Hoya - or - STFU....

If you think there's an argument to me made for dlh winning 7 rounds then PRODUCE A SCORE CARD.

Until then do us all a favor and STFU...

 

And Whitaker lost to Ramirez, and drew with Chavez right??? :roll: Uh no!

You keep saying that :roll:, No, ODLH's best wins were not just the Vargas fight. Unfortunately Don King gave Trinidad a gift against ODLH, and as far as the Mosley fight goes, unless you're a hater (you are) or a nuthugger (you are) or blind (I wouldn't doubt it) then you saw Oscar give Mosley a boxing clinic for atleast 8 rounds. But if you choose to lie to yourself and you go against what Jack Mosley thought, Winky Wright Claimed, and George Foreman agreed with, that Oscar won, you still cannot turn a blind eye to the FACT that Mosley was juiced up for that fight, hence any TRUE fight would look at that outcome not in favor of Mosley. But you're not a true fight fan, you have proven to be a troll.

Oscar is also naturally smaller than Trinidad, did you not know that? Ignorant wannabe fight fans like you are so annoying. :roll: :yep :-(

Oscar called Tito out, but Tito rejected Oscar's offer for a rematch. FACT.

I have several times. Here it goes once more.

1. DLH
2. DLH
3. DLH
4. Tito
5. DLH
6. DLH
7. DLH
8. DLH
9. DLH
10. EVEN
11. Tito
12. Tito

That's why DLH has lost 2 decisions in Vegas and on in L.A. because Oscar can't lose there. atsch

You're a doofus dude. An obvious troll.

BTW, welcome back Kaygb. :good

 

Just like you question Juanmas next opponent, have you ever question Mayweather's opponents since hes been a welterweight???

 

If I haven't...Does it make me a RACIST????

And Baldomir, Judah, Hatton, De La Hoya at 154lbs are a FAR BETTER opponents than Juanma' next opponent Roger Mbtagwa 26-12.

 

They both took big risks and fought the same opponents on about a dozen occasions.