Incorrect. JMM counters in combinations far, far better. Hell, Mayweather barely does it at all, actually, especially in the past few years. He potshots, but that's not enough to tame someone like Pac, in my opinion. Morales suppressed him with combinations, and so did Marquez. Mayweather will have to open up to get some respect, and in doing that he leaves himself vulnerable. And Pac has an age and activity advantage over Joy. Actually, it's normally the orthodox fighter who is taken off balance by the southpaw, because southpaws are accustomed to fighting orthodox people all the time, while orthodox guys rarely come across lefties. Mayweather has even displayed this when he got buzzed by Corley and stunned by Judah. He won both fights, true, but it certainly wasn't easy either time. The straight-right is a good tool for taking out southpaws, but Pac has an exceptional left-straight of his own, as well as a great right-hook. Both men have brilliant tools that can trouble the other, but Mayweather is ultimately at the disadvantage when it comes to the issue of stances, for the aforementioned reason of having so little experience with lefties. What makes it even worse for him is how fast Pac is, making him even trickier to deal with.
Did you even watch the judah fight? Judah had Mayweather on the defensive early, but Mayweather was never hurt. By the later rounds it was getting ugly. Judah was getting busted up, and had to hit low to keep from being stopped. Judah is faster than both Pac, and Mayweather in terms of quickness and handspeed. If Mayweather was able to deal with him, I don't think that Pac being a southoaw will trouble him too much, though I can see him needing a couple of rounds to adjust.
You say PBF will have trouble with stance but he's fought southpaws before in Corely, Mitchell and Zab. Pac has never even been in the ring with a slick fighter before which is even more of a concern add that he struggles with counter-punchers and you have a recipe for disaster. IMO he won't know how to react when PBF gives him different looks he also won't know how to react when he's in the ring for the first time with a guy who's as good of an athelete than he is. PBF has been in the ring with great athletes before but Pac hasn't.
Yep, I saw the full fight. I even posted a casual analysis of the events here: http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4027039&postcount=50 Your reasoning is interesting, but I still disagree. Yes, Judah is quicker than Mayweather and Pac (not by a large amount, though. In fact, I would place all three in the same general 'area' of speed, the top tier.) The reason why Pac would give Mayweather more problems is because he presents the same issue of speed + southpaw stance, but, unlike Judah, he's actually an A grade fighter. He's not just raw talent, he's a guy with ace offensive tools, stamina, the best coach in the business, heart, and he's picking up new skills all the time, like the increased lateral movement, the emphasis on the right-hook rather than depending on the left hand, etc. He's a real fighter, whereas Judah is supremely talented but has bad stamina, a terrible trainer, horrible concentration and is much more static than the evolving Pac.
I agree that what sets Pac apart from judah his is heart and determination. I still think that Judah physically presents a more difficult challenge. He's got excellent handpseed, sharp staright left hand, as well as good left uppercut. But unlike Pac, Judah wilts when the fight starts going against him. What im saying is that i think that Mayweather has gotten a more difficult southpaw look in the form of Judah. For those 1st four rds, Zudah was very motivated and his speed was on full display. However Mayweather figured him out and beat the fight right out of him. I don't think that anything Pac brings will something that he hasn't sen before or can't deal with.
How can floyd beat pac when it took floyd 10 rounds to beat hatton and it took pac 2 rounds See how that sounds? Floyd-jmm hasn't even happened yet so how do we know what's the result gonna be? Who knows maybe jmm can pull out an upset since floyd has been out for almost 2 years.
What a stupid post. Pac hasnt showed the speed of Judah...sure...you measured it? Most would disagree with you. Pac-DLH was at 147, it was not a catchweight fight...get your facts straight. Just because DLH came in at the weigh in at 145 doesnt mean he had to. Cotto weighed in at 146 against Clottey, it wasnt a catchweight of 146. De La Hoya, Pacquiao make weight Last Updated: Friday, December 5, 2008 | 7:00 PM ET This content is protected Oscar De La Hoya, left, and Manny Pacquiao pose with boxing great Bernard Hopkins looking on. (Jae C. Hong/Associated Press) Oscar De La Hoya and Manny Pacquiao made weight with room to spare on Friday in Las Vegas for their highly anticipated megafight. De La Hoya weighed 145 pounds, two under the contractual limit for the bout. Pacquiao weighed 142. Weight has been a hot topic surrounding Saturday's 12-round fight at the MGM Grand Arena as it being fought at a catchweight. All the rest of your post are just mumbo jumbo excuses to hug Floyds nuts.
Shouldnt compare Pac now to the Pac of JMM. Its obvious the weight gain has increased his power and he has been able to maintain his speed. Floyd did the same from 130-140. Alot of people say his best weight was at 130. He looked far stronger at 140. Stylistically it'll still be tough for Pac without a strong jab. Also Floyd is 3-0 against Southpaws. And only lost 3 rounds in those 3 fights.