If Tyson and Frazier Switched Eras

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  1. rm36

    rm36 Active Member Full Member

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    how do you think each would do with the other's opponents ?
     
  2. ripcity

    ripcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It is kind of unfair The 70's may have been the best eara in heavyweight history. That being said I think they both would have done very well. In Tyson's Time I'm not sure who gives Frazier the most trubble. I think Douglas who beat Tyson was very moitivated that night and would have given anyone probblems. As for Tyson his toughest opoent may have been Foreman.
    I think that Frazier and Tyson in peak condetions would have beaten Douglas and Foreman respectively.
     
  3. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    they would have been great in those eras as well and I am sure they would run into the fighters to test there metal....I do think Tyson could have been better if he did not stray from Cus Damato's teachings...both fighters were great and both era's were strong, In fact I dont know any weak era's
     
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    Caponecartels Maritime Lawyer Full Member

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    Would Frazier do a Foster job on Spinks?
    Could Tyson get Ali in FOTC?

    hmm....
     
  5. ripcity

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    Yes
     
  6. rm36

    rm36 Active Member Full Member

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    Could Frazier be as dominant as Tyson was from 85-90 ?
     
  7. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    Would suck for Frazier having 12 round fights.
     
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    Caponecartels Maritime Lawyer Full Member

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    Never even thought of that. I guess Joe would have to start a
    bit quicker than he usually would..
     
  9. Bummy Davis

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    true but can you imagine his pace over 12
     
  10. rm36

    rm36 Active Member Full Member

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    A lot of his fights weren't scheduled for 15 though.
     
  11. Boilermaker

    Boilermaker Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It is highly likely that Frazier holds the title all the way until the Old George Foreman Knocks him out! I dont think that he creates the same buzz as Tyson, but technically his reign would be longer and better.

    Tyson in Fraziers place, almost certainly stalls in Fight of the century. Like Frazier, i think that Tyson also loses to George Foreman. I think that Tyson's record looks similar to Fraziers after this.
     
  12. My2Sense

    My2Sense Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Most likely.


    Not likely.
     
  13. Blood Green

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    I think Tyson would beat any version of Ali that Frazier faced. Ali had slipped plenty by the time their first fight happened. I also think Tyson takes Foreman out because Foreman was way too sloppy. Norton gets crushed.

    Frazier would probably beat Tyson's opponents but make them look better than Tyson did. Ruddock would be live and Douglas might stand a chance. Foreman also might beat him. Frazier's title reign would probably end once Holyfield, Bowe, and Lewis came around.
     
  14. Thinman

    Thinman Well-Known Member Full Member

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    This what I understand from your post.

    1- I think you are admiting somehow (without saying it) that the version of Ali previous to facing Frazier in 1971 would have beaten Tyson....

    2- Then you believe that the versions (any version) of Ali that Frazier faced since their first match in 1971, would have lost against Tyson because
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    This what I think

    I think Tyson could only beat Ali by KO.... there is no other way that Tyson could defeat Ali..... not in a 12 or 15 round fight...... I think Tyson doesn't hear the final bell.....

    The version of Ali of 1971 who faced and lost to Frazier, would have in my honest opinion defeated Tyson....

    Ali was a great fighter and also a smart one..... Tyson was never smart.... mostly speed and power.... and only for a few rounds......

    If Tyson can't Ko Ali in the first 4 rounds..... then it is game over for Tyson....
     
  15. ripcity

    ripcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I don't understand why so many people think Ali would beat Tyson?
    Granted 70's Ali has a better chance than 60's Ali.