Analysis of a few De La Hoya fights...

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  1. mrtony80

    mrtony80 Likes thick chicks Full Member

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    vs Chavez - I think Oscar was more worried about making himself looking spectacular in this fight than anything else.
    He knew he could easily beat Chavez, and could have pulled his punches like Larry Holmes did against Ali out of
    respect, but his selfishness didn't allow him to.

    vs Trinidad - Oscar deserved to lose this one. If you can out-box a guy for 9 rounds, not allow him to land anything
    significant, then why can't you do it for three more rounds without resorting to running like a *****?

    vs Hopkins - Oscar threw this fight. Its less embarrassing to get knocked out by a body shot than by a head shot, and
    with Hopkins catching up to him, Oscar took the easy way out. If you watch the punch, you can see it didn't all that hard.
    Something very suspicious was going on. Oscar didn't even attempt to get up. Watch the post fight interviews...even Manny Stewart had his doubts about what went down.

    vs Mayweather - Oscar's determination is the only reason the fight was close. I think Floyd's **** talking
    motivated Oscar in the same way Vargas and Mayorga motivated him with their trash talk. At the end of the day, Floyd was
    just the better fighter.

    vs Pacquiao - Weight drained or not, something was very fishy about this fight. I mean, Oscar wasn't even throwing punches! Oscar
    didn't have the look of a warrior in his eyes that night, like he did against Mayweather. It was almost as if he didn't even try at times. I'm not saying he threw the
    fight, but the fact that Oscar wasn't giving much of an effort is very, very suspicious.
     
  2. Jeff Young

    Jeff Young Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Oscar's retired he paid his dues....leave him be....
     
  3. mrtony80

    mrtony80 Likes thick chicks Full Member

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    Yeah, he retired...hence the retrospective analysis.
     
  4. Boxed Ears

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    Trolling: Requires less than .1% of the training that boxing does.
     
  5. Drunkenboxer

    Drunkenboxer Least Eligible Bachelor Full Member

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    That's what you call analysis?
     
  6. Leonit

    Leonit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You don't happen to be a hatter :). Your comment of the Tito fight is strange. I mean if you win 9 round and you are not KD 9 times or KO in the last 3 rounds according to the rules of boxing you win :). Chavez was something like 80-0-1 in his fight with Oscar it was normal to take him seriously.
     
  7. Leonit

    Leonit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm not a pro but when I box for fun it requires a lot more than 1% for me :)
     
  8. Club Fighter

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    Whenever you step into the squared circle you get what's coming to you. If you can't stand the heat then maybe you ought not be in the kitchen but it's not up to your opponent to determine that.
    By your own admission the guy-out boxed Tito for 9 rds which means he had 3/4 of the fight in the bag. With that done you barely even need to come out for the 10th, 11th, and 12th let alone mix it up. Sans any kds, up 9 rounds there's no way a boxer can lose a decision . . . not even in a 15 rounder so by your own admission Oscar did deserve to win the fight.
    The easy way out??? You must be forgetting that he was fighting a naturally bigger man. How the hell is getting KO'd (which had never happened to Oscar up until that point) taking the easy way out? I'm sure he would have liked to have preserved that stat. That's the thing about body shots, they're very difficult to judge w/o having actually felt the shot because the appearance of the shot may be somewhat deceptive.
    The fight was close because neither fighter asserted his will on the other to the point of dominance. No more, no less.
    Speed kills. Oscar was slow. Manny was not. It was abundantly clear from the very beginning that it was not possible for Oscar to catch up w/ Manny. I was disappointed in Oscar in this fight because he failed to show the ability to adapt which a great champion at times must do. Sometimes it did appear that he just refused to let his hands go. Definitely not his shining moment. All is forgiven, tho. Oscar's still my boy.


    P.S. STFU, noob.
     
  9. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    I find your analyses somewhat lacking in common sense...particularly the Hopkins fight.
     
  10. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Club Fighter's analyses above, on the other hand...:good :deal
     
  11. IsaL

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    STFU and GTFO noob! :twisted:
     
  12. simon850

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    hahaha Flame on! :fire
     
  13. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Club Fighter vs mrtony80 was actually very reminiscent of De La Hoya vs. Chavez. :yep
     
  14. charlievint

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    DLH did look agressive and determined in the 1st round with PAC, but quickly found out it wasn't going to be as easy as he thought and I think that took the wind from his sails. I honeslty think DLH thought he'd be able to destroy the smaller PAC, but when he felt Manny's pop and found how diffificult it was to catch him he mentally began to wilt. Oscar looked fine in the first and even the 2nd round until Manny began to tag DLH at will and counter his shots before he could even think about throwing them.

    But good analysis on the other ones. I don't think DLH threw the Nard fight. I think he was legitimately hurt by the liver shot. But who really knows?
     
  15. IsaL

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    I say mre like DLH vs Paez.