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Look man it depends a lot of the style of the fighter. If you took technicians and boxers like Floyd, Marquez they can jump weight classes and compensate for their smaller size. But for a pressure fighter size is important so he can be a Monster at one weight but when he moves to another weight and he is over sized he can not put his game together.

 

Yes for me.

 

Of course he did. Oscar has more natural talent than Hopkins, but DLH's punches weren't even making the much bigger Hopkins flinch.

Imagine if Hopkins was the same size as DLH, no doubt Oscar would beat him easy.

 

People rate size waaay to much. It's a joke. I mean if you take say Roy Jones, and he weighs 210, and put him against 200 pd Roy Jones...I'd imagine the 210 one would win. I'm saying...A person equally skilled (or good style against there opponent) will be somebody smaller and that is equal, or lesser skill. When they say "A good big man beats a good small man" doesn't mean 5 pounds though like most people think.
I spar HARD (without head gear) against many people bigger than me. Right now I'm training with this kid that outweighs me by 33 pounds (and decently solid), has a 4 inch height advantage, and I'm willing to trade punch for punch with the guy. Of course when he connects with a hard shot I feel it, but whenever I connect with a hard shot he damn sure feels it. Not saying I could do that to everybody that weighs 30 more pounds than me cuz I definitely could not, but I wouldn't fight like that against everybody either....
Size damn sure helps, but skills/ experience is way more important.

 

Just focusing on the weight difference of less than 10 lbs. doesn't make for a big advantage. A lot of other factors are involved.

 

Yeah but you now at pro level there are not such big skill level gaps as when we spar for fun in the local gym

 

a 105 pounder and 108 pounder, yes i can see your point

140 pounder against 147 pounder m theres obviously a difference...especially when you are matching elite guys against each other

as the old saying goes
" a good big fighter will beat a good smaller fighter"

there are exceptions....
leonard-duran 1
leonard vs lalonde
pac-oscar
holyfield vs just about everyone he fought

but JMM will get beat soundly by FM, and size and strength will be the difference

 

I think the bigger difference between cotto and pac is where their started their career.
Cotto started his career at 135 and and made his mark at 140. Now at 147 (and a hard hitting 147) He has managed to stay in his comfort zone for the last 8 years.

In regards to Pacqiao... He started his career as a minimum weight. In the amateurs is weighed an even 100lbs. He is 50#s upweight now. While i cannot dispute, he has had success in his comeupance, he is going to be more awkward at the weight than Cotto.

Cotto crushed Pac in this one... I'm seeing a long hospital stay in Pac's future followed by the lost chance of any hopeful PBF matchup for him and boxing fans as a whole.

 

I can tell you this Amateurs if your 142 you can fight someone as high as 151 sure its amateurs but look at the difference, now they are going to say bigger gloves and head gear, head gear really doesnt do much and glove size at that weight is 10 ounces

Your right its not size that wins fights its skill, however size can be used to win a fight if you know how to use it to win a fight, but then again so can being the smaller man if you know how to stay small and draw the bigger man in and catch him when he misses or reaches, ha boxing isnt about Size kids its about skills.

 

90% of the time that is right, but in boxing one punch can change your life. Anything can happen....a slugger could KO a boxer after being outclassed for 11 rounds. Case in point the BUte vs Andrade fight....although Bute was pretty much given the chance to hold on to his title. To not take size into consideration is the same as not taking skill into consideration when talking about boxing since you are physically imposing your will against anther persons. Don't get me wrong....I'd rather have the skills and ablility over size, but one has to always take size, strength and power into considertion.

 

It's a pretty logical equation.

Sure it's all about skill, but it would take a certain SKILLSET coupled with some sort of amazing X factor to overcome size whether it's speed or power.

Look at Darchinyan and Agbeko...who seriously thought the Armenian would lose? I didn't...but clearly his power and smaller size didn't carry well in the higher weight classes and it showed. His skills and awkward style werent enough to win him the fight.

So yes size isn't everything, but in order to beat someone of much greater size then you, you would need a HUGE amount of skill over your opponent to compensate for your lack of size. Not only skill, but like I said...something else that goes with it.


Pacquiao didnt JUST beat DLH with pure skill...that's stupid. He beat him with skill AND speed. Moreso the latter than the former.

Leonard beat Hagler with skill AND speed.

Mayweather beat DLH with skill AND speed.

 

A good big man always beats a good little man. Men of equal skills but different sizes think about it. You learned this **** in elementary. Of course elite fighters can climb the ranks and make the impossible look easy. Mosley, Pac, Floyd, Oscar, Pea, Jones have all had recent success but match either with those guys with someone on their level they lose at the higher weights. they're just so good it's hard to find fighters that good in every generation. Look at Mosley verse a taller longer physically strong Forrest or a very skilled craftsmen in Wink. He took a major risk and lost. Hoya vs hop. Pea vs Tito even though he was past it. Cotto vs Margarito.

 

Only if that big man uses his size to his advantage.

 

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