I thought he lost to both Mosley and Clottey, and was devastated by Margarito. His two wins were against two fighters I have never heard of. The main thing I took away from the Clottey fight, was that despite the outcome, Clottey just looked so much better than Cotto overall. He at one point was so outclassing him that he could have finished the fight but Clottey was being so inactive. It's also interesting that in both the Clottey and Mosley fight, Cotto began to retreat almost non stop in the later rounds. In both fights it seemed like Cotto was being broken down, in both fights in seemed his opponents got careless when he did. Will Pac make the same mistake?...
Yeah, Cotto always had problems in the later rounds when he couldn't break down the opponents, although I had him beating Mosley (but losing to Clottey). Roach probably noticed that too and suggested Cotto over Mosley. But Miguel is still very dangerous for a guy who started that small as Pac. You see Clottey, Margarito and Mosley all weighed about 160 pounds fight night, Pac will weigh about 148, and so far physical strength gave Cotto the most problems not speed (that doesn't mean Judah's speed didn't play an important part but look where that fight went after a few rounds). Cotto is in a period of his career when he's more vulnerable than before, but still a very solid fighter and no way it's gonna be a walk in the park for the great PacMan.
Wow... you scored BOTH fights for mosley and clottey????? i want to see your scorecard, so your saying both mosley and clottey won 7 rounds of their fights against cotto? scorecard please?
I really dont see how eather fight is scored for the other.... my friend who honest to god sat down with the sole objective of scoring the fight, and i thought he gave a round to clottey that he shouldnt have got but even he had it 6 rounds to 6 rounds.... which is a cotto win. i believe to have clottey winning that fight youd have to only have cotto winning 4 rounds total? id like to see some scorecards if you dont mind.
Regardless of how you had iy scored the judges scored him over Mosely and Clottey. He is 4-1 deserving or not.
I just dont see how.... honestly. And the mosley fight? I think its an unrealistic reach to say mosley beat cotto. I can understand the clottey fight to some extent, though imo to have cotto winning only 4 rounds of that fight is absurd, at least that fight i can understand, the mosley fight was simply a very close fight that cotto won. Clottey, i guess if someone stretched for clottey a bit i could see them giving clottey 7 rounds... Do you happen to remember your scorecard for the fight? For eather fights? or no.... if not i understand im just curious. No way mosley won that fight imo, mosley knew it after it was done too. Just my view :good
Wow lol u had Mosely beating Cotto? how on earth did you come up with that? Clottey did NOT beat Cotto, he couldve but he couldnt keep the momentum goin...Cotto outboxed Clottey in the later rounds. How people can say he (Clottey) won is beyond me :?
i searched and got this out of 81 people.... 17 thought clottey won, about 20%. Nobody i know scored the fight, as close as it was and as hard as it was, for clottey.... closest was 6-6, which is a cotto win. My scorecard was 1 -pretty even round, clottey down round 1 ---- 10-8 ----- Cotto 2 - pretty even round, but cotto threw TWICE as much as clottey (60 something punches to 30 something)... sorry but its hard to win a round when your opponent is throwing twice as much as you are, clottey is throwing very good punches... but then he doesnt do anything for 30 seconds.. and although their good punches nothings really bothering cotto round 2 ---- 10-9 ----- Cotto 3 - close even fight so far, im favoring cotto because to me hes dictating the pase of the fight, working the jab, is more active... while clottey to me when he does land, lands the harder punches... but just isnt doing enough for my taste. *headbutt* at the end of round 3 round 3 ---- 10-9 ----- Cotto * 4 - eye bothering cotto as he tries to sweep the blood out with his gloves, Clottey wins the first minute or so of the round big with a combo that gets cottos attention, looking good, then cotto starts landing his own punches towards the middle of the round (including a good left to the head) and then clottey starts backing up the rest of the round, then gets put in the corner, with cotto pressing and throwing again about twice as much if not more, throwing a combo, makes clottey miss, lands a body punch uppercut with 14 seconds left to go... round 4 ---- 10-9 ---- Cotto - 5 - Best punch of the round so far is a short right hand from clottey... winning the round so far, another good right hand by clottey... cotto throws a combo and goes to the body, another good right hand by clottey... clotteys round easy so far with some of the best punches of the fight, clottey throws the right, cotto slips it, turns clottey, backs clottey to the corner... clottey lunges at cotto and grabs him... cotto shrugs clottey off of him and clottey hits the deck... clottey is complaining.. takes time to recover 5th Round 10-9 ---- Clottey *most dominant round by eather fighter so far* 6 - They meet in the center of the ring... cotto throws a combo, ends it with a jab that gets through... clottey responds with some solid shots, cotto lands a left upstairs, a left and a right upstairs and he backs clottey to the ropes.. their trading back and forth with clottey against the ropes, then the corner, getting through with straight right hands... clottey landing decent shots towards the end of the round... but big round for cotto, his best in the fight so far Round 6 ---- 10-9 ---- Cotto 7 - Good round for clottey, landing good effective punches, this round is a bit worrying if your a cotto fan.... with 24 seconds left in the round clottey has landed 80 punches, and cottos landed 78 (according to compubox) round 7 ---- 10-8 ---- Clottey 8th - Cut bothering cotto as he continues to try and swipe away the blood - Clottey doing good work in this round imo, landing the right hand and pressing cotto.... clottey had his back against the ropes for a split second then flurried his way back to the center of the ring... good round for clottey, cotto landing a decent shot as he throws a combo little past wid way point... but then gets pressed again, starting to look like margarito fight, very worrying as a cotto fan i must admit.... thank god clottey doesnt have loaded gloves (j/k calm down) cotto fights clottey into the corner with 35 seconds left to go in the round, doing good work... but not enough, clottey wins the round. round 8 ---- 10-9 ---- Clottey 9th - the first minute or so all clottey, at 1:52 clottey lands a full extension right hand flush that snaps cottos head all the way back, anyone questioning cottos chin should watch that punch again, not looking good for cotto... clottey pressing him around the ring, starting to look like the margarito fight? cotto gets clottey in corner as crowd goes wild but this rounds still all clottey... hes landed some very very hard punches in this round, big round 9 for clottey Round 9 ---- 10-9 ---- Clottey at this point id like to stop and say DAMN.... if cottos resolve has ever been questioned, this fight should answer it, he cant see out of his right eye and the dude is getting hit with some solid, SOLID shots.... props to both these guys. 10 - Not much to say with this round... Clottey chasing cotto, cotto trying to use his movement and box, cotto landed two nice left hooks with 10 seconds to go, but its been all clottey imo jim says cotto might have won the round off them maybe but no way... clotteys round Rund 10 ---- 10-9 ---- Clottey 11 - Cotto goes back to using his jab and throwing combos, both land ok but cottos winning the round as hes using the jab, throwing combos, clotteys just absorbing punches and walking forward at this point, clottey wakes up a bit towards the end of the round, lands a good punch at the bell, very good round by both fighters but to me cotto won that round off of boxing, using his jab.... combination punching. Good round for both fighters though - Jim just said by compubox 11th round they landed the same amount of punches, clottey 19 out of 47 and cotto 19 out of 54 - Round 11 --- 10-9 --- Cotto 12 - First half of the round nothing big.... clottey stalking forward with cotto trying to circle away... im dissapointed with cotto as he has to know this is a close fight, clottey complains about being hit behind the head... cotto starts to open up with some combos, announcers keep saying clottey hasnt thrown enough to win the round but imo hes thrown just as much as cotto so far... cotto backing up, avoiding a lot of shots, hits clottey with a combo, bell rings.... announcers seem to just assume cotto won that round but to me it was just as close as all the other rounds and a case could be made for clottey imo, if you actually look at whats going on clottey more then held his own that round, i could go eather way this one Round 12 ---- 10-9 ---- Cotto so... to recap 1 - Cotto 2 - Cotto 3 - Cotto 4 - Cotto 5 - Clottey 6 - Cotto 7 - Clottey 8 - Clottey 9 - Clottey 10 - Clottey 11 - Cotto 12 - Cotto I know not everyone will agree but thats the way i scored it right now watching it... i could go both ways on that last round and i think round 3 or 4, but i feel im being 100% and i can honestly say now that i truly think cotto won that fight, even if i give clottey the 12th or give him the 3rd.. one of those two, cotto still wins because he knocked clottey down. just imo... flame away lol
That scorecard is a big stretch to be honest. The only scores you could really have for the fight objectively is 114-113 either way. Most people who cried about Clottey winning by a wide margin though probably didn't even score the fight, and can't comprehend the idea of a round by round basis.
Pretty much. Clottey was the better fighter that night...He won his rounds bigger and did more damage throughout. But the simple fact is that he didnt win enough rounds to convincingly beat Cotto. Thats the way boxing is scored. I dont have a problem someone scoring it for Clottey...but to say he won wide is bollocks..it just didnt happen.
I definitely scored the Mosley fight for Cotto. I had his last for Clottey though I don't think the decision was terrible. Clottey isn't the type of fighter that's ever going to get the closer fights and he's almost got a target on his head that says 'Rob me'. I still thought it was close though and Clottey couldn't overcome the instincts of a counter-puncher and go after Cotto the way he could have with his hand speed and Cotto's eye. This content is protected
Look you can score the Clottey fight for Clottey it was a close fight. But Mosley fight wasn't close at all. Cotto win it clearly the face of Mosley was the face of a defeated man he acknowledge his loss as a real fighter. Now when he demands a rematch he doesn't speak BS like -the first match was a robbery. I watch the mother ****ing fight 5 times at least. I really don't understand how did you score it for Mosley
People didnt say **** about Mosley winning that fight until he opened his damn mouth on ESPN telling Mayweather that "some people thought I won that fight." That's all it takes...then people rewatch in Mosley-goggle vision and all of sudden some BS case is made that he won it.