arthur abraham vs. mikkel kessler

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  1. Secern

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    I could not have said it better. Agree 100%
     
  2. £4£

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    Kessler by UD, He'll steal the first half with ease and I don't think Kessler with have to much trouble with AA coming on later in the fight.
     
  3. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    what are you talking about ?
    his reach is listed 73" for a listed 6'1" (73") height.
    that NOT long.
    not at all.
     
  4. bzolor

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    Kessler will have a hard time againt Ward and Dirrel. Im looking forward to see how Kessler will cope with their speed and rythm. AA could lose to Kessler and still win the tourney. (Styles make fights)
     
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  6. Marciano

    Marciano AmicoDiNessuno Full Member

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    in a Real Battle i Think Draw or Kessler By SD
     
  7. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    In my opinion this is essentially correct. However, AA is a sitting duck for Kessler's 1-2, and I think that leads to a stoppage. Part of the reason we have this myth about Arthur's "impenetrable defense" is because he fought so many guys who are feather fisted. A guy with Kessler's skill, who can crack like Kessler, will completely expose the myth.
     
  8. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    so you assume :
    (1) abraham's counters won't smash kessler
    (2) miranda is feather fisted
     
  9. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Well usually Miranda's power is overrated, but here you may be underrating it a bit. He bombed away on Abraham (before during and after the breaking of his jaw) and the guy trucked on. He has at minimum an A-/A level chin at 160 (presumably his punch resistance won't be too disparate with an additional eight pounds). I do see Kessler stopping him, primarily because he will land the 1-2 through Abe's high guard (which isn't held as tightly as some of its other practitioners) and will be able to counter at will. By accumulation, Kessler will draw blood. Abe will be a mess by the 8th round it if lasts that long. If the ringside physician doesn't stop it on medical grounds, Wegner will have no choice but to throw in the towel to save his meal ticket to come back and fight another day.
     
  10. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    Miranda is the only puncher AA ever faced, and it took him 16 rounds over two fights to score one convincing win. Ward only needed 12 rounds. Pavlik only needed 7.

    Oral, 35% KO ratio
    Simon, 46% KO ratio
    Marquez, 61%, never stopped a middleweight
    Ayala, 37% KO ratio
    et, et, et.

    All Abraham has ever done is beat up a bunch of winos and bag ladies. He is easily the single most over rated fighter on the planet.
     
  11. cubex

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    Boo,you're drinking that haterade in a manner I envy:yep

    Eastman,Jantuah,Gevor ain't bad punchers to say the least.

    You just don't wanna give it to him.
     
  12. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    And you're easily his biggest hater on ESB. Did an Armenian steal your lunch money in junior high? :huh
     
  13. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Abraham could win this tournament and knock out Bute, Andrade, Pavlik and Dawson - and he'd still be an overrated bum in boo's book.

    This is a level of hatred not seen since the Third Reich.
     
  14. cubex

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    Well it's obviously because of the whole Pavlik-Abraham situation.

    I don't look much into it,he doesn't mean much of what he says.
     
  15. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    I used to have a lot of respect for AA. That changed when I throroughly researched his resume', and watched 7 of his fights:yep

    If boxing was always fair, we would have seen Miranda TKO4 Abraham.