arthur abraham vs. mikkel kessler

He's tough, and he can punch. Beyond that, there just isn't much to the guy.

 

He has fast good counterpunches when the other guys leads,good reflexes,good defense-he's very good.Question is if he is excellent?

The Super 6 will answer the question.

 

False.

On what basis?

 

On the basis that Newman said "it's a tko," at least 3 times. In the mean time the ringside doc spent the time out working on AA's mouth which head NOTHING to do with the head butt.

 

He was talking with those guys at ringside lol.You took it out of context.

He said:''It's over 4 rounds we go to the scorecards?No,it'a TKO!''

The doctor thing you're right but it didn't make adifference.

 

I can't believe Boo is trying to make it look as though Abraham should of been stopped by Miranda in their first outing, after Arthur courageously went 8 rounds with a broken, dislocated jaw.

****ing hilarious if you ask me.

 

It's totally acceptable to re-evaluate your position and determine that he's actually overrated, but you don't want to go off the deep end. Some of your logic regarding the guy borders on the hysterical. He took 16 rounds to convincingly beat Miranda to Pavlik's 7? Well...no. They're three separate fights. Both of the following statements are true: "Pavlik beat Miranda faster than Abraham" and "Abraham beat Miranda faster than Pavlik". It's not like those 16 rounds were all one big long fight - they were spaced well apart and Abe scored the brutal 4 round knockout (instead of teeing off on an unresponsive ragdoll for six and a half rounds straight to no avail) in his opponent's backyard, knowing that he had to "turn it on" to impress American TV audiences. Abe's usual complacency in the ring seems to be a byproduct of his comfortable home environs. We'll see what happens when Taylor heads over - this additional common opposition should go a long way toward answering Pavlik-Abraham h2h questions (or maybe just open up a whole new batch :yep). If Abe gets really fired up for this and starts uncharacteristically fast to blow Jermain out in two minutes flat, are you going to cop-out that Kelly ruined his chin?

 

None of that really matters that much. The simple fact is that AA had a 3 and a half year run with the IBF title, and Edison Miranda is still the best opponent he ever faced. It's my contention that if he had Taylor or Pavlik's resume' he'd have at least 3 losses. He's undefeated because his title run was a carefully crafted marketing gimmick. If he does well in the tourney, I'll have to eat a lot of crow, but it's far more likely that I'll be on here saying "I told ya so."

 

While that may in part be true....what does it matter now?

Taylor's resume won't save him from Abraham.

 

Check my post history bro. I have repeatedly stated that if AA beats Taylor, Taylor should retire immediately because he is shot to ****. If a fighter goes from back to back wins over BHop all the way down to back to back losses to Froch and Abraham, what other conclusion could you logically arrive at?

 

Eh...I'm not sure about that. Styles, man. Taylor's not fared well with punchers. Bernard's the man, and certainly wins (even close, controversial wins) over him are highly credible - but he's not a puncher in the mold of a Pavlik, Froch, or Abraham.

 

He fought a close fight against Pavlik the second time around and showed improvement, he was ahead on the scorecards against Froch recently. All relatively good signs that he's not "shot to ****". The man may be on the slide, but he's definitely not shot to **** if he's capable of giving top-tier fighters this much trouble.

If Abraham beats him handily, and I mean handily.. you need to give the man his kudos.

 

A debate over how styles make fights is perfectly valid. However, Taylor has, or had, every single skill and attribute that troubles Abraham. Speed, height, reach, a great jab, a quick right hand, et. Do you think Arthur could beat the guy who fought Bernard and Winky? I don't, nor do I think AA could beat the guy who fought Pavlik the second time.

On the other hand, can a near prime version of JT beat the guy who fought LuJaun Simon and Mahir Oral? Hell yes.

 

Yes it did. The fight should only have been stopped long enough for the point deduction and then continued.

 

Kessler is much more sound technically than Abraham. Abraham has no more than a punchers chance in this one, I expect Kessler to outwork him, outbox him, but not stop him. Kessler UD.