pavlik owns williams and martinez,,,,,,,,,,,,

Well damn bro, everytime I challenge one of these imbeciles to name 3 middleweights who can beat PW, they run and hide:yep

 

Arthur should be an ambassador to the United Nations, born in Armenia, living in Germany, has fought in Switzerland then to the states and now fighting in the UK, when did that happen?:huh

 

:rofl:rofl

 

He beat Winky and it was a good win but he was off for a VERY long time and has been known as feather fisted, what has Paul Williams done at MW to make you think he easily annihilates Felix Sturm, Anthony Mundine, Gevor or Sylvester? I am not saying he loses to them, but you make it sound WAAAAAY to easy, all the above I mentioned have been in there with decent to good competition.
1.Sturm: Gevor, Sylvester and even De la hoya(most thougth he won)
2.Mundine:Kessler
3.Gevor: gave aa his toughest fight, controversial loss to sturm, beat akinainen(spelling)
4.Sylvester: fought sturm, castilejo, askinainen x2
Not trying to be a troll but beating Andy Kolle at MW, and Winky after a 2 year layoff does not mean he steamrolls the MW division with the confidence you exert with your question.

 

Sturm? Damn near lost to Gevor. Williams KO in 7-9.

Gevoratsch That dude is 5' 8" with a 47% KO ratio. Williams would spark has ass quick.

Sylvester, 5' 7", 44% KO ratio, Simon was competetive wth him. Williams would terrorize this guy.

Mundine is washed up.

 

And Winky isn't?

 

as much as i dont like pavlik, i cant stand the guy, paul williams is a genetic freak, but that does not make him a true middleweight, i dont care how you size it up.....he is a big WW or natural jr. MW.....if pavlik walks threw what williams throws, i see paul getting hurt, and hurt badly.....

i will be supporting paul though

 

1. Completely agree, although I admit Pavlik bias, but your overall point is money, cause this is gonna be a hell of a fight, IMO.:good

2. Salute to you good Sir!:yep

 

Wow! I knew they'd kept the truth from Arum, but did NOT know that part.:shock:

 

I haven't been to box-rec to verify, but I'm almost certain PW started at MW for up to 14 fights, then started boiling his way down to WW. He's ranked #1 @ JMW and last I saw #5 @ MW in the Rings Rankings. I mean come on now!

Not to mention Paul has been toyin' with 168 and 175 with different opponents there. Dude can certainly fight at 160 and IMO looks ALL AROUND better at that weight as he fills out good, etc.. At WW, no disrespect, but he looked like Skeletor!

 

Williams by wide decision. His extremely high workrate and unorthodoxy will offset Pavlik's rhythm inside and out, and I think he has the durability to deal with most of what Pavlik dishes out when he's able to get off. We'll find that out when they fight, but based on styles I'd have to go with Williams clearly.

 

I hope you're wrong Pea, but as usual from you, good analysis.:yep

 

Thanks. It all comes down to how Williams deals with his power the way I see it. If he can take it, as I said I think he has the tools necessary to off-set and outwork Pavlik. If not, he could go out by the mid rounds. You never really know in the fight game.

 

I talked to Kelly's trainer Jack Loew and he seems to agree with you :!:

[url]http://www.blogtalkradio.com/On-The-Ropes/2009/09/14/On-The-Ropes-Episode-39-Guests-Jack-Loew-Robert-Guerrero[/url]

:deal

 

This is the biggest money fight either guy can get right now. HBO is footing the bill. Not much else to it really.