Who hit as hard as Fitzsimmons...

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  1. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    And weighed between 154 and 168 pounds properly hydrated?
     
  2. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Probably no one , allthough Jack Johnson said that Choynsky hit harder than Fitz.
    "Jeffries had a solid wallop, and Fitz could knock your brains out ,but that Choynsky,he could plumb paralyze you"
     
  3. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    DID NOT READ THE THREAD!!!!!


    Still, Julian Jackson probably :good
     
  4. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    That is my suspicion as well (at least out of all of the modern guys)

    McClellan misses getting the nod because he's actually a dehydrated lightheavyweight.
     
  5. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Choynski hit harder, no? According to Jeffries and Corbett anyway.
     
  6. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven VIP Member banned Full Member

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    Sam Langford.
    As hard as, or possibly harder.
     
  7. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    So was Fitz :good
     
  8. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Julian Jackson of course.
    maybe Ricardo Mayorga also.
    worth mentioning : Reggie Johnson , Roy Jones , Nigel Benn ,
    Sam Langford (when not extremely fat)
    never underestimate the great combination of HGH+steroides+weightlifting
     
  9. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Oh No !
    if he was such then he wouldn't have weighed only 165 for the Benn fight.
     
  10. essexboy

    essexboy The Cat Full Member

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    So what are you saying? Most modern hardhitters are steroid users? Im not saying its not true but innocent until proven guilty surely. Only Jones on your list was known to use steroids. Reggie Johnson hit nowhere near as hard as Fitzsimmons.
     
  11. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Jeffries did in fact say that Choynsky hit him harder than anyone, he made the quote when referring to a punch from Choynsky that drove his top lip through his teeth.,it had to be pulled out by his seconds.
     
  12. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    :think

    True, largely. You do have to make allowances for fighters in Benn's time being "better" at it, though.

    Does Fitz's training manual recommend the usual course of dehydration? I don't quite recall.
     
  13. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    Stanley Ketchel, easily
     
  14. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    While I dont doubt Ketchel was a terrific middleweight puncher, Fitz was a terrific heavyweight puncher.
    Ketchel stopped 1 heavyweight Porky Flynn ,who was kod 13 times,Fitz and Choynsky stopped many big men.
     
  15. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    Still though, lacklustre showing or not Ketchel DROPPED Jack Johnson.

    He could definitely bang at any weight.

    I think it's a valid argument.