who wins ? ray leonard vs. terry norris , at 154 both prime

Here we go again. The sore losers are once again claiming how their man was really the better fighter after getting trounced brutally and embarrassed (exposed is more like it)

how ironic in that it was Leonard hitting the canvas, that it was Norris sending Ray to the deck and handing him HIS ass!

Even Ray's best shots when they landed flush never caused Terry to so much as blink

Winners get bragging rights, losers go to the mourner's bench. Never forget that

 

I'm not forgetting this is prime for prime but Leonard fights the same way all the time. he MUST have a stationary fighter in front of him if he wants to overwhelm his man because he doesnt have the one shot power jackson had.

Look at the ways both men won their fights. jackson did the job with one or two shots flush while with leonard it took dozens. The problem for him is Norris doesnt stay put.

The other problem is that Ray spends too much time looking for openings. This would play right into the hands of Norris who is much less tentative in his fights and will initiate an attack much faster. With that in mind, Norris will beat ray to the punch the vast majority of the time and a man who consistently beats the other to it is the one who wins.

In leonard's own mind, he would see Norris as his superior not only because of his ability to beat him to it every time but also because he has the power to command respect.

leonard couldnt hurt Norris but look how many time Norris hurt ray in their fight. Terry even hurt Ray with a body shot in the first round. I saw Ray's knees buckle the way Meldrick's did in their fight.

And for your information, Norris would have beat 87 Hagler version with one hand tied behind his back. Marvin was just too slow and mechanical at the time

 

I don't buy into that hoax. I have never believed it even at the time I heard it. otherwise there would have been no Howard fights or Lalonde fights or rematches. No Norris fight. No Camacho fight at the age of 40. That's all bull**** to catch a declining Hagler off guard. Just a hoax and nothing more. Multi millionaires dont risk their eyesight..

Fact is, leonard's best fight was the Hagler fight. His peak. Here he looked better than he was for Hearns when he was hopelessly behind or for Duran in which he actually lost.

Look at the Hearns fight and tell me he didnt have problems hitting a moving target losing round after round. In fact, it looks like to me that Hearns lost it more than Ray won it. Ray Leonard wasn't brilliant. That's a lie! Tommy just burned out otherwise, it would have taken forever for ray to catch up to him.

Now Terry Norris is a different matter. Terry doesnt give out or slow down. Terry knows how to tie his man up if needed. Tommy couldnt even do that and he catches shots flush. Always has.

and who was the person that said Tommy takes a better shot than Terry? They must have missed the Barkley fight

Anyways, it's like I said, Leonard could keep coming back for another try but for what? he could come back a second time, a third time, a forth time and the result is always going to be the same with Norris the winnder every time.

Lewt's just say that when it comes to Terry norris, Leonard ran into the wall he couldnt get over.

 

I agree with every word of it. Norris is one of the most overrated fighters of the last 30 years. Leonard would've stopped him within 5 rounds in his prime.

 

Great avater.... bad post.

 

Great post. Great avatar. Ignore Sweet Pea, he's an embarrassment.

 

I see you missed the barkley fight, the Kinchen fight, the Roldan fight, the Andries fight and the leonard rematch

 

You are reviled as truly the biggest waste of space on this board. You let uncontrollable bias affect every post you make, and have a certain clique of fighters (norris and Camacho being the primary examples) that you refuse to bestow defeat upon in a hypothetical matchup, even when it is clearly 'unwinnable' for them (case in points; Prime Ray Leonard)

Seriously, most people on this board greet every single one of your posts with a genuine and physical (not in the Internet sense, but I mean they genuinely, after looking at the words you have decided fit to represent your own opinions on Boxing) reaction; THIS----atsch

 

I recognize that Leonard was 35 years old when he faced Norris, but he should have given a better accounting of himself in that fight. To me it looked like Norris carried him.

If we think about it seriously, and we are honest with ourselves, we will recognize that Leonard struggled against elite competition at welterweight, losing to Duran and having to depend on a lot of things to escape the Hearns fight with a win. The idea of Leonard moving up to face a prime Norris at 154 lbs and pulling off a victory is improbable. I'm not saying it is impossible, just improbable.

Based on the facts, I cannot favor Leonard in the match.

 

Duran and Hearns are like, top 30 of all-time fighters, Duran is amongst the top ten without a doubt (I have him at no.2) Hearns a physical freak and one of the hardest punchers of all-time (throughout weight classes) with a fantastic set of boxing skills as well. He was UNDEFEATED when Ray beat him.

As said before, I'm a Leonard hater, but these Norris-types are going totally the opposite way, and I enjoy watching Norris fight

NORRIS ISN'T A TOP 75 OF ALL TIME FIGHTER:deal I'm actually not certain where he would be ranked, but nowhere near the aforementioned.

 

What do I care? I'm not on this forum to kiss butts. I like to put thought into my posts, not play follow the leader like you and Sweet Pea.

When this fight came off between srl and Norris, everyone's first reaction was to call out "SUGAR RAY!" All the while I knew this was a mismatch that in the making.

The media and fans were not only quick but bold to proclaim an automatic win for Ray without thinking it thru or all the myriad factors I was able to bring up.

They stubbornly said "no" like they were being asked to put on a condom before sex-refusing to acknowledge the realities of what can happen in a real fight - that fighting is a two way street. Not bothering to ask themselves how well can Ray take TN's shots or how will srl get him to stand still for him. None of that means **** to people that can't think it thru.

Then after the carnage is done, they put out an unimaginative excuse by saying "Leonard got old"

let's face it, the closest Ray will ever get to pulling a win over Tn is if Terry get's disqualified