Hamed's Retirement was Boxing's Loss.

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  1. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    I know a lot of people took satisfaction from seeing Hamed being comfortably beaten by Barrera. But I think that in many ways Hamed's retirement was detrimental to the sport itself. Hamed was one of the few crossover, mainstream, international stars of the sport. He generated public interest, media headlines, revenue, controversy and excitement. But most significantly of all; Hamed was unique. How many other fighters have Michael Buffer speaking Arabic, fly in on a magic carpet or have P.Diddy alongside them for a ring walk?

    I recall that during a frenetic fight against Augie Sanchez, in between rounds, the ring doctor leaned in and asked Hamed "how are you doing?", Hamed replied "I'm doing great, how are you?".

    Hamed's ego, energy and zest were great to watch. Even though Sanchez was seriously overmatched, it was one of a plethora of Hamed fights that were brilliantly entertaining, and often iconic (Hamed vs. Kelley).

    In my mind, Hamed was a great fighter. He never proved he was a great fighter though. He did, however, prove that he was a very good fighter with a reasonably strong and deep resume, and a series of significant accomplishments within the sport.
     
  2. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    There's probably some merit to that, his HBO dates were big news. You can only blame him, however, for not having the mental fortitude to fight on after his embarrassment.
     
  3. Mr. Blobby

    Mr. Blobby Well-Known Member Full Member

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    he was great, period.

    he had bad hands and could not fight on .
     
  4. mariancobretti

    mariancobretti Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think Hamed would have had a real shot at both Morales and Pacman.....2 very aggresive fighters at the time...Marquez was ducked for a reason....hes a counter puncher....

    Barrera fooled everyone with his counterpunching style that fight....whod have thought?
     
  5. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    I know Hamed eventually became well known in the US boxing community, but I don't think he was anything like the mainstream star over there as he was here in the UK, or in the the rest of Europe and Asia. I grew up in that era and I didn't even like, or follow, boxing at the time, but he was the one guy who everyone had heard of.

    It would have been nice if he had fought on after Barrera. But there are plenty of credible reasons why he didn't. Most of them I can respect. In a recent interview he made it clear that one of the main reasons was that his hands were ****ed, and he was losing his power because of the constant pain.

    A while ago I did this about why I felt he retired:

    http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=127810
     
  6. JudgeDredd

    JudgeDredd Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He was quite amusing, the thing before the Barrera fight where he was talking Arabic in the ring before the fight was bloodcurdlingly embarassing though, especially seen as he got his ass kicked after! :yep
     
  7. gregor

    gregor Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I agree. He was never in a boring fight, and that should count too.

    I am not sure how he would fare against top fighters (OK, we have one example against Barrera), but I have a feeling he still could improve.
     
  8. David Fanning

    David Fanning Internet Tuff Guy Full Member

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    I could never stand Hamed. By the title of the thread alone, I would have disagreed. But, reading the thread, you are right, he was great for boxing. Was his head too big to deal with a loss on his record?
     
  9. wentz

    wentz Member Full Member

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    We didn't make him retire. I don't get you.
     
  10. JudgeDredd

    JudgeDredd Well-Known Member Full Member

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    & yes, he realised he couldn't compete with the elite fighters, & he also didn't like the fact that he was becoming increasingly unpopular with the british public.
     
  11. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    That Arabic thing started a few fights before Barrera. I think the first time was against Bungu. Or perhaps McCullough :huh
     
  12. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    Not sure that is true.
     
  13. JudgeDredd

    JudgeDredd Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Most people I spoke to despised him tbh
     
  14. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    Well thats sort of what I mean. He was more famous than popular. And those that were a fan, didn't like him any less post-Barrera.
     
  15. JudgeDredd

    JudgeDredd Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yeah I can't argue with that, love him or hate him, he was big news