Could juan manuel marquez be undefeated ?

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  1. freddy-wak

    freddy-wak M O D E R A T O R Full Member

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    for those of you hardcore fans that have followed his career, what do you think....
    his very first loss was his 1st fight, due to a headbutt that nobody really knows the specifics to....

    then the norwood fight which many had it for jmm even though the scorecards would make you think norwood spanked his ass (boring fight though)

    chris john, though many have not seen it...many have, and those that have said jmm got robbed in indonesia

    then the oh so famous manny pacquiao SD loss where the majority of fans and fighters had jmm ahead....


    just wondering what you guys think since JMM has never been dominated or convincingly beat....
     
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    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    Not for me.

    He lost the Pac fight by 1 point on my card (1st fight)
     
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  3. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    He lost against Norwood.
     
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    freddy-wak M O D E R A T O R Full Member

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    could you understand why some would give jmm that fight ??? or do you really think manny did enough to win that fight clean.....
     
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    freddy-wak M O D E R A T O R Full Member

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    discussions please, not those famous ESB one liners by people that didnt see the fights :yep
     
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    JudgeDredd Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Lost the first Pacquiao fight, but apart from that seems to have had quite a bit of bad luck
     
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    by my scorecards he has never lost a fight
     
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  8. Jeff Young

    Jeff Young Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    he lost against norwood, and pacquiao the first fight..
     
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    JudgeDredd Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Unfortunately I haven't seen the fights apart from with Pac
     
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    hmm it's the same for Marquez. That's why the fans are split with their decisions. Some for Marquez some for Pacquiao.
     
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    warrior85 R.I.P THUNDER Full Member

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    the loss in his 1st fight was very fishy

    he beat norwood,it was a horrible foul filled fight but jmm won imo

    he clearly beat john

    and imo he beat pac twice,close BUT CLEAR

    so imo he is unofficially undefeated
     
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    Never saw his first match or the Norwood match but heard it was a robbery.

    He lost against Pacquiao both times IMO.

    Never actually saw the Chris John fight but heard it was a major robbery.
     
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    freddy-wak M O D E R A T O R Full Member

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    yeah, that norwood fight was a stinker...but jmm landed nice as usual, where norwood seemed to just be looking for that one shot....and he was missing with huge looping punches all night....
     
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    freddy-wak M O D E R A T O R Full Member

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    you really think norwood beat him ???

    how ???

    have you even seen the fight
     
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    antcull Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I scored the first fight to Pac and scored JMM-John a draw.

    The John fight wasnt a clear win for JMM and it was a pretty awful fight...

    Havent watched the Norwood fight and I thought JMM won the 2nd Pac fight
     
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