Could juan manuel marquez be undefeated ?

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  1. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    Whats there to discuss Norwood didnt look good but Marquez looked even worse and got knocked down and clearly lost a very bad fight..
     
    bladerunner, Sep 17, 2009
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  2. freddy-wak

    freddy-wak M O D E R A T O R Full Member

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    besides dropping marquez in the 2nd, norwood didn't do ****....and even in that round he didnt do much but barely drop marquez......marquez also got robbed in that fight from a knockdown....he dropped norwood twice, and once they didnt count it....
     
    freddy-wak, Sep 17, 2009
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  3. freddy-wak

    freddy-wak M O D E R A T O R Full Member

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    why did you erase what you oringinally put :lol::lol:

    you havn't seen the fight huh, how about the times marquez dropped norwood......
     
    freddy-wak, Sep 17, 2009
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  4. GDG

    GDG Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Can't really say about his 1st fight but I had him losing to Norwood and Pac I.

    I do think he won Pac II and the Chris John fight however.

    I think you'd have to be a bit of a fanboy to give him all of these close fights, but I guess it is arguable!!
     
    GDG, Sep 17, 2009
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  5. zorryt

    zorryt Active Member Full Member

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    As for the Norwood fight go watch it is on youtube, Marquez won that fight, Marquez put him down two times but the good antilatinamerican ref Joe Cortez rule 1 knockdown as a slip.
     
    zorryt, Sep 17, 2009
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  6. freddy-wak

    freddy-wak M O D E R A T O R Full Member

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    guys, guys guys....please explain to me how you guys can score the fight for norwood....seriously, i have never seen a more pathetic way to defend your title....all he did was crouch down and wait for one shot, and obviously he never got it cause he was trying to ko marquez.......did he even throw his right hand more than 10 times.....
     
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  7. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    I have seen the fight but i didnt saw it yeasterday like you probably did and Norwood even though he only threw 260 punches got the better of JMM.
     
    bladerunner, Sep 17, 2009
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  8. freddy-wak

    freddy-wak M O D E R A T O R Full Member

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    you said jmm got dropped a few times, then you erased it after looking it up :lol::lol:


    man'ol man....the nerve of some of you m'****az

    you clown floyd for fighting the way he does (which i applaud you for), but how the **** can you give that fight to norwood....he didn't do a damn thing in that fight but sit on his title...
     
    freddy-wak, Sep 17, 2009
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  9. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    Oh definitely I can see people giving him the fight.

    But for me, he lost.
     
    eze, Sep 17, 2009
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  10. freddy-wak

    freddy-wak M O D E R A T O R Full Member

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    fair enough...
     
    freddy-wak, Sep 17, 2009
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  11. thewoo

    thewoo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I thought that the 2nd pacman fight was close but clear for pacman.
     
    thewoo, Sep 17, 2009
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  12. freddy-wak

    freddy-wak M O D E R A T O R Full Member

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    would you of called it a robbery if jmm's hands were the ones raised...
     
    freddy-wak, Sep 17, 2009
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  13. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    Am i supposed to remember everything about one of the worst fights ive ever seen many years ago?

    Jmm is one of my fav fighters but he lost that fight.
     
    bladerunner, Sep 17, 2009
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  14. freddy-wak

    freddy-wak M O D E R A T O R Full Member

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    yes you're supposed to remember if your gonna conversate about it.....:deal
     
    freddy-wak, Sep 17, 2009
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  15. Brickhaus

    Brickhaus Packs the house Full Member

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    His record is correct as it stands, IMO. He's actually a bit lucky he doesn't have two losses to Pacquiao. If the judge had scored the first round correctly, he'd be 0-2 against Pacquiao.

    The John and Norwood fights were both boring counterpuncher battles where Marquez just flat didn't do enough to win. I can see how someone would score the John and Pacquiao fights for Marquez (they WERE close fights that could have gone to Marquez if you scored all the close rounds for Marquez), but I personally disagree. The Norwood fight wouldn't even be controversial if their careers didn't move in opposite directions since then.
     
    Brickhaus, Sep 17, 2009
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