Could juan manuel marquez be undefeated ?

Good post. JMM is one bad ass mofo!

 

Yes,

1) There are no details about his debut fight.
2) Most of those who have watched the Norwood fight think JMM won it.
3) JMM was obviously robbed in Indonesia against Chris John.
4) Most saw JMM beating Pacquiao both times.

 

I hate it when people say "most" just because you seem to think so. We've had polls about those fights a million times and none of them have ever ended up largley in JMM's favor if anything I'm pretty sure they have ended up in manny's favor. I would go through and dig them up but I'm too lazy.

 

I had the first fight for Pac and the 2nd a draw. I have 1 loss for jmm on his record.

 

i think what he means by most is, educated Boxing fans, not *******s that only watch the kd's and say he(pacman) won.

 

JMM should have atleast gotten a draw against, Norwood and John,

he should atleats gotten a draw in both manny fights, so YES he should be undefeated.

1st manny fight, one of the judjes scores the 1st round 7/10 for manny, instead of 6/10, but manny got a big gift by not getting points deducted for hitting Marquez while down.

second fight was close for JMM, should of been a draw atleast.

 

Norwood clearly beat him I had him wining the second fight with Pac and beating John.

 

Right everyone that had pac winning is a *******. :thumbsup Keep telling yourself that.

 

IMO, Norwood beat him, he drew with John and he drew and beat Pac!

 

Never seen the Norwood fight and also the Chris John fight. Though I have heard that Chris John was perhaps his true first lost, but then again in this post im hearing it was a robbery. I have feeling some are saying this without even watching the fight and only because it took place in Indonesia. The Manny fight I just cant understand how some are saying it was a robbery to that ceratin extent. The matches were very competitive, robbery in my opinion is something like Cintron-Martinez or Chavez-Whitaker, which shows the clear winner. I'll get back to this post after I get my hands on some footage:good

 

I'll be seeing that fight as soon as my girl gives me some space. Just finish watching the Chris John fight and Marquez def. deserve that victory. The ref. was blind with those low blows, Marquez was def. landing the cleaner more effective shots even when they traded he was clearly controlling the fight. I even saw Marquez throw some combos and made John miss some punches, I was very impress. Even with those deduction and John landing some of his shots, Marquez came back with one of his and at times with multiple combos from the body to the head. Marquez clearly won this one.

 

patsch

There was nothing clear about that fight.