excuse me while i get something off my chest..

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by doug.ie, Sep 19, 2009.


  1. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    More relevant point than smart arse question. You keep making the assertion that people were forced into these fights. But you're lying.

    This is the salient point. If you were arguing that the Mayweather/Marquez and Cotto/Pacquiao should not be taken place due to the risk of injury to Marquez and Pacquiao as the smaller men in each, then I would disagree, but at least you'd be making a consistent argument. Instead you seem to feel the other fight is unfair on the bigger man, which is totally inconsistent.
     
  2. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    Am I right in thinking that the Mayweather camp have always claimed this was at a limit of 147 though? The catchweight issue seems to be a bit murky, IMO. One side saying one thing, the other side saying something else.
     
  3. lucatoni08

    lucatoni08 Active Member Full Member

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    To be honest, I'm a bit confused with this whole contract thing and being honest i'm basing my opinion on what I 'know', which is that the original contract was for 144 with a penalty fee for every pound mayweather came in over. Either that or it was 144, and then changed to 147 last night cos mayweather was struggling....But I could be wrong

    Either way, it doesn't sit too well with me!
     
  4. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    Neither side appears to be saying anything different. Schaeffer says the contracted weight was 147lbs. Nevada Athletic commission say there are no issues with the weight and say that Marquez has no problem.

    The furore is coming solely from internet fanboys.
     
  5. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    According to Richard Schaefer the contracts signed in May included a contracted weight of 147lbs, but a financial penalty for every pound weighed over 144lbs.
     
  6. Dan684

    Dan684 Dave's Stepdad Full Member

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    Cobbler FFS

    Cotto struggles to make weight. Making 145 will be a very tough ask for Cotto. Making 144 will not be for Floyd

    The only problem I had with the Pac/Cotto fight is that they're forcing him to put the Welterweight belt on the line which i have stated before so please stop twisting my point. You will see that I said 'If he comes in at 145 then fair enough, if he doesn't it still isn't as bad because it is a struggle' this does not mean I dont have a problem with it, this means I could sympaphise with it a little.
     
  7. Dan684

    Dan684 Dave's Stepdad Full Member

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    Funny how your ridiculing people for being 'internet fanboys'............ What exactly are you doing now you bellend !
     
  8. lucatoni08

    lucatoni08 Active Member Full Member

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    Not neccessarily, i'm not a fanboy and i'm a bit confused and shocked by the weigh-in last night.....
     
  9. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    He weighed in at 146 for the Clottey fight, don't give me that crap.

    So you're saying that if Pacquaio fought Cotto at a contracted weight of 147lbs (or even 146 as we know he can make that...) that you'd be similarly outraged due to the possibilty of injury to Pacquiao, but as it's one pound lower it's fine for Pacquiao but unfair on Cotto?
     
  10. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    You're not ranting and raving about it and calling everyone else a ****** though...
     
  11. Dan684

    Dan684 Dave's Stepdad Full Member

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    Where on earth did I say that it is unfair on Cotto ??????
     
  12. lucatoni08

    lucatoni08 Active Member Full Member

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    Thats true......
     
  13. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    The contract was for 147lbs with penalties for each pound over 144.

    So technically Mayweather has done nothing wrong. Morally, when he knows he's already fighting a guy coming from lightweight, he is wrong.

    As for him getting hurt, I don't think its any more dangerous than any other fight. Is it more dangerous than fighting Pacquiao? I doubt it.
     
  14. dan-b

    dan-b Boxing Junkie banned

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    That's if you don't think the contract was just altered afterwards to make it seem less of a mismatch.
     
  15. lucatoni08

    lucatoni08 Active Member Full Member

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    In a nutshell, thats what I was trying to say...

    Still though, like an idiot, I'm backing Marquez :nut