IS SUGAR SHANE MOSLEY still the NR:1 ranked Welter....???so how is

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  1. mariancobretti

    mariancobretti Well-Known Member Full Member

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    ....FLoyd Nr:1 p4p????

    please reason....hes got to surely beat either Cotto, Mosley....or Pac
     
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  2. MrPR

    MrPR Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    All I know is Shane Mosley is def the best top welterweight out there today
     
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  3. errsta

    errsta Boxing Addict banned

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    Mosley is the best welter in the linear sense....Floyd is the best fighter in the P4P sense.
     
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    DonPrestige Active Member Full Member

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    I wouldnt even say Mosley was the best welter. Cotto beat him.

    I dont see how one win no matter how impressive over Marg erases that all of a sudden.
     
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    heatman Fight Game Connoisseur Full Member

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    I find it funny how he got this status of being the undisputed best WW. Sure he is up there and can beat any WW on his day, but it seems beatin Maragarito got him this lineal champ status, I'm not convinced.Especially since Cotto beat him
     
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  6. scilent assasin

    scilent assasin p4p Full Member

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    thank you i dont think mosely is the best welter, in fact cotto is and this is why:

    currently the best welters are cotto, mosely, clottey and margo

    cotto has beaten clottey and mosely lost to margorito
    mosely beat margorito and lost to cotto
    clottey l to cotto and margo

    from this i can tell u cotto has fought more elite welters even other champs like quintana who holds a victory over PW so how on earth is shane the best welter? he lued like **** against mayorga and was beaten by cotto 1 victory doesnt make you a lineal champ
     
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    Are you sure about that?
     
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  8. standing 8

    standing 8 Active Member Full Member

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    In terms of heat Mosley is the man to beat at welterweight. The only legitimate way for him to lose his ranking is to take it from him in the ring.
     
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    There's no contradiction in calling Mosley the #1 WW and Floyd above him p4p. P4p is a made up list with amorphous criteria (quality of opponent, weight jumping, quality of wins), rankings in a weight division are weighted most heavily based on defeating others ranked in that division.

    I'm fine putting Floyd above Shane p4p and Shane above Floyd at WW.
     
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  10. Little Pea

    Little Pea 'A' grade boxing fan Full Member

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    AGree.
     
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  11. odejes

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    floyd hant fought a top ww since he became champ
     
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  12. Asterion

    Asterion Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Mosley is #1. He will lose that place if he stays inactive.
     
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  13. Chiko_Tech

    Chiko_Tech Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Mosley is not the top welter for me. Cotto has fought better welters right there and if He manage to beat Pac He will be the number one right there.
     
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  14. punchdynamo

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    Cotto Mosely was a close decision. Cotto was demolished by a cheating Margo, but then Shane demolished Margo.

    He is the #1 welter, but not undisputed until he defeats Cotto, wins the next few big fights or Cotto loses.
     
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  15. boxingwizard

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    Mosley is the number 1 welterweight now and just because Mayweather is back and be beat Marquez doesn't mean he's back to being the number 1 welterweight.
     
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