Mayweathers "natural size"

right now mayweather is a jr welter at best.remember he walks around at 150 and fights at 147.guys like ricky hatton can walk around as high as 175 and he fights at 140.kendell holt walks around at 160 and he fights at 140, hell joan guzman walks around high and hes fights lower then jr ww divison.mayweather is a small ww, berto comes in at 158 and sometimes 160, clottey comes in a pound or 2 under 160 at timess.you got mayweather making the weight and fight night gain maybe 1 pound if hes lucky not 10 to 15.

 

Mayweather is a natural super featherweight.

 

Right, maybe his prime years were at 130. But right now at his age and with his frame his natural weight is probably closer to 147. So any talk of fights to take place now or in the near future should be taking his current natural weight into account. I think losing muscle is much more detrimental to one's health than losing fat and fighters underestimate the effect of doing this.

In my opinion Marquez taking the fight at 144 or 146 was a bad decision on his part. Not that he would have won anyways. If you put on weight you should put on muscle so that you can increase your punching power and speed at the higher weight. Marquez came in with a lot of flab around his midsection. This is basically dead weight that pound for pound makes him the slower and weaker fighter. That's the whole point to having weight classes. It was a bull**** fight.

Pacquiao has so far been much smarter about moving up in weight. The extra weight he's putting on is all muscle as he's coming into all the fights ripped. I have a feeling he and Roach would be much more strict about the catch weights, and would not have accepted Floyd coming in 2lbs over the way Marquez did. Marquez didn't have much choice which kind of sucked for him. He probably needed the huge payday and Floyd knew Marquez needed the money too much to turn down the fight. Pac hhas tons of money and wouldn't feel the same pressure to accept those shenanigans.

 

If you make the weight you make the weight.

Discuss what you will, but these weight issues (the issues created by those with strong agendas, that is) are preposterous on quite a few levels.

 

Well by your theory then If Mayweather fought most his fights at 130 when he was a Boy over 9 years Ago. Yep 2001 was the last time at 130.
When he was 23 years old.

I guess that same logic means Pacman is a Natural Flyweight.

Get a grip. Pbf is a perfect 140 guy. I mean in his Prime he was 135 to 140.

Now he cant even make 144. thats 14 pounds over 130.

 

In 40 fights, Mayweather has had 3 fights at 140 and 4 fights at 147.

Don't get me wrong, now, Mayweather is a 147 pounder.

Naturally, I consider him a super featherweight.

 

The weight issue aside, the only reason I feel slightly short changed by Floyd Mayweather Jr is for one reason. He knows how great he is, no fighter the same size as him could conceivably defeat him, at least not in this era, so why did he just bring up Juan from two divisions below him? The logical thing is to do better for every fight. Either fight Mosley or keep moving up, to test yourself. That's what competition is all about. Testing your limits.

 

If thats your logic then give credit to Pacman for being a Natural 115 Pounder and fighting guys at 147.

A natural Flyweight. Thats the same logic. Just goes to show how much better Pacman is.

 

Look at Pacquaio's physique and compare it to Floyd Mayweather's physique.

Pacquaio at 140, looks slim, lean, lengthy muscle mass and not at all top heavy (i.e, legs are in proportion)

Look at Mayweather at 147. He looks bulky, especially in the chest, shoulders and back area. He looks top heavy with little legs below a relatively big body.

He didn't used to look like that at 135. 135 is what I consider his "natural" weight in todays age. He is a welterweight in the standard of same day weigh in - but not in the new standard where middleweights like Williams can cook down to 147.

 

A two year layoff and he fights Marquez - P4P #2 and common consensus has him being 2-0 against Pacquaio, despite what Boxrec says.

That's not a sloppy fight at all, considering his other options were Cotto, Pacquaio, Williams or Mosley.

Mosley would have been potentially better as a fight, but then people would discredit him for Mosley being older and weight drained, having to get down to 147.

I'd love to see the excuses that occur when he fights the winner of Cotto/Pacquaio and schools them too.

What people don't want to recognise here, regardless of size, regardless of power advantage - Marquez, entirely skilled in boxing and perhaps the best technician (with the exception of Mayweather himself) in the ring, landed 12% of his punches while Floyd landed 59%. I know these are only compubox statistics but the fight did feel like that, Floyd could pick off Marquez at will.

No one else has done that to Marquez.

Having seen that dominant performance? Paul Williams is the only guy I give a chance because he has the ability to Calzaghe his way in against Floyd. Fast, long arms that he'll keep flurrying all night which due to the reach advantage, will more than likely overwhelm Floyd.

Size means nothing, unless you have the style to make it count - ala Wlad Klitschko. Paul Williams has the style to make his size count.

Although part of me feels Floyd would still be a betting favorite.

 

Natural size is the lowest weight class a fighter can fight in comfortably. In PBF's case, that's WW. **** where he started or had the most fights. People stay growin as they age.

 

Thats it. by his fans they think he could still make 130. he couldnt even get close to 140 i feel.

2001 was the last time he was 130.

The last time Pacman was a Flyweight were he fought most of his career was 1999.

I think Natural weight to me is somewhere in your Prime were they could make weight without pushing themselves to the extreme.

mate could you imagine PBF at 130 now. NO Way. I feel the lowest he could get is 140.

 

He could make 140 now, probably even 135.