Translating Floyd Mayweather Jr Vs Juan Manuel Marquez

It still would have been pretty one sided. Marquez was never exactly fast at 130 or 135. Diaz clearly had better handspeed than Marquez. Marquez would still be significantly slower than Mayweather, and still would be at a distinct reach disadvantage. I don't know how you expect a counter puncher to be competitive against another counter puncher who's taller, longer, much faster(in both hand and footspeed), has much better reflexes, and much better defense.

 

Unfair to JMM, Floyd did have 6 years to adapt to the current weight, JMM had but months.

It's pretty clear JMM would've done better at 130lbs against Floyd, he might not have been able to nick more than 4 rounds, but he would've most likely done better than he did Saturday night.

 

Ricky won 1 round on two judges cards(2 on the other card). The round he won, he won by smoothering Floyd's offense. He really didn't land much. Marquez is not that type of fighter. It's a stylisitic nightmare for Marquez. He get's dominated no matter what the weight class is against Floyd.

 

He's not exactly FAST, but he's operating a lot faster than he showed at 144. That would be enough to catch floyd and give him enough pep in his step to avoid a lot more of Floyd's offense. DLH was able to avoid a lot of Floyd's offense.

JMM is on the slide....that was proof in the Juan Diaz and Casa fights. He's still a very good fighter who can beat most at his natrual weight class but you can't equate that kind of performance at 144 b/c he looses the abilities that he still has at 37 by moving up in weight like he did.

I still see Floyd beating JMM prime for prime, but I expect the fight to be a lot more competitive with even playing feild. I dont' see anyone beating Floyd in or around his weight class except for someone with the right style, someone who has more physical advantages or someone who has more talent or natrual ability/gifts. PW and PAC are the only fighters I can see who have the chance at beating Mayweather. And I give PAC less of a chance based on his size.

 

This is true. To me it almost looked like he gave Marquez a sporting chance. He enjoyed playing chess with Marquez, but lost me a little bit when he started running. I wish Tiger Woods was there so he could get up and walk out again when that **** started.

 

Why all the talk about what would have happened at various weights?

The only time this fight could have been made is now. The only weight it could have been fought at was the weight it was (or was meant be!) fought at.

The rest is speculative. Floyd destroyed Marquez and it was a shame to see such a great fighter struggle so much but that is testament to how good Floyd is.

Maybe controversial but I think the only two fighters who may test Floyd are Pac and Williams. Cant remember Floyd fighting too many southpaws (someone correct me) or someone whose movement is as quick and controlled as Mannys. So keeping him at bay will be hard.

Williiams' sheer workrate and physical advantages would make him an awkward opponent.

I dont think Cotto/Shane offer anything different to the like Floyd has faced before other than being stronger and with quicker hands respectively.

These would all make for great fights none the less. Lets hope Floyd now takes on people of this ilk rather than blown up fighters.

 

I thought they had Ricky up by mid rounds? Ricky never landed anything of signifigance but he made it uncomfortable for FLoyd who said that was his hardest fight. You're right about being a stylistic nightmare for JMM. But He wouldn't get dominated at any weight class against Floyd. IT would be like what Floyd encountered against DLH....he'll still loose but not dominated like he was at 144. Again....JMM is definitley not at his best weight nor is he at his very best physically. He's been loosing steps in his game over the last couple of years....even at 130 or 135.

 

Here's the problem, Floyd was also a lot faster at 130 and 135. Remember, 147 is his 4th weight class. Not only was he faster at those weights, but he let his hands go more as well. Let's also not forget that Floyd hadn't fought in almost two years. I don't care how good you are, not fighting for long stretches will have a negative effect on you. The saying you hear in boxing all the time is that styles make fights. JMM vs. Floyd is a perfect example of this. Pretty much everything JMM does, Floyd does better.

 

Who is more comfortable at welterweight territory, the featherweight Juan or Floyd who has spent 4 years adapting to that specific weight?

 

That's pretty much completely irrelevant to the point I made.

 

Please. Mayweather handpicked a smaller fighter - that's all there is to it. Plus, he didn't even make weight. He had a 10 lb weight advantage and 3 inch arm reach advantage. His speed was good, but not nearly as quick as RJJ was last month. Flip the advantages around and put Mayweather in with hopkins, Pavlik, RJJ or Jermain Taylor and he gets ***** slapped to hell like he deserves.