size does not matter

Do you really think JMM had a chance regardless of those 2 pounds? lol

You're welcome.

 

the OP should be ashamed of himself.

size does not matter? easy to say when you are on the greener side of the pasteur.

i hope pbf fight paul williams or pavlik and be on the wrong end of size and weight disadvantage.

he asked a career fw who fought at lw only once. heck, jmm i think was at his best at 126/130. pbf basically asked a guy to come up 3 weight classes.

 

Wow. This is the first time someone has moved up more than 1 weight class! :verysad

 

Your avatar is PBF punching an old De La Hoya.
Enough from you.
Next you'll have Marciano knocking out Joe Louis.

 

look, i am a fan of pbf skills.

but when you have all the advantage listed below.

1. age advantage.
2. size.
3. reach.
4. height.
5. weight advantage.

do you really think it would be a competitive fight. how many times have you seen a 120-107 score chap?

:rofl:rofl:rofl

 

It's weird, Oscar had almost all those advantages except age against Floyd and still lost. This fight wouldn't have been any closer if they weight 130 because Floyd is just a better fighter than Marquez is and JMM had a shitty game plan for Floyd. It looked like he din't even have a game plan, actually. Disadvantages aside, when he was getting his ass kicked, he should have been all over Floyd ala Hatton, Chavez just to make it a fight, but he gave up trying after 4 or 5 rounds. He took his millions and walked away satisfied.

 

The exact point everybody defending Floyd just will not acknowledge.
All anyone has to do, including floyd, is admit the huge advantages and acknowledge the lack of risk.

Floyd kept saying "Juan Manuel Marquez is a hell of a fighter"
So is Juan Manuel Lopez, but it would be ******ed for him to fight Floyd. To me anyway, probably just floyd an idea.

 

ALMOST ALL?????
He was like 5 years older you idiot.
He wasn't going up against Welter Weight prime De La Hoya and dethroning him, he even wanted a second fight with him!!
HE LIKES YOUR MONEY, NOT YOUR DEFENSE. You want to support mayweather? Then send him some goddamned money.

 

And I don't recall hearing Oscar say "I'm the best boxer that ever lived"
Floyd has.

 

The way Marquez looked in his previous fight, it actually looked like Floyd was taking a bigger risk. But now that the fight is over, everybody saw it coming. Of course you did. You probably saw floyd winning, but not dominating him effortlessly the way he did.

 

The Pac fight is about money, not legacy.

Paul Williams - That's a legacy fight, but not a huge money spinner and really if Quintana foud a way to out box him, I'm sure Floyd could. However Floyd's nutsack isn't as cavernous as JMM's.

 

That is completely irrelevant. My whole point is I don't even want to speculate on mismatches. I didn't think "if floyd wins" I thought "when floyd wins."
That is not a good fight.

 

pbf-dlh.

pbf had the age and skill advantage. pretty even when you come to think of it. that is why the SD score is as close as anyone can think of.

compare it to 120-107.

pbf had age, height, size, reach, weight and speed advantage over jmm.

how in the world will this fight be competitive. months before the fight, i predicted a wide UD or at least TKO for pbf.

it does not take half a brain to realize that with you having all the advantages, winning is a foregon conclusion. as i have predicted that this will be similar to the juanma-penalosa fight, it was indeed a total domination.

 

the fact he announced this fight against the former 126 pound champ and newly crowned 135 pound champ the day of the pacquio-hatton fight tells us one thing...he doenst want to fight the best in his division...i called bull**** the minute it was announced...i knew this was going to be a boring ass shut out or beatdown.....my threads are are in the stats...take a look....horrible fight and horrible waste of time......the HBO team was even down on it after the 5th round...they knew too...but not a good idea to bash their own promotion before round 1

 

First of all I'm not a fan of PBF. I recognize him as CLEARLY the most skilled boxer currently active. I don't like him, but hater is much too strong a term.

I recognize and appreciate his skills, but his 'greatness' is not very well established, mainly on account of his refusal to be all he can be.


That said, the Opening post is utterly ludicrous.

Size matters.

Period. Full stop.

Try putting him in against Wlad.

Or Haye. Or even Dawson.

The point is clear. Size matters.

It's all very well to say he defeated JMM on skill alone. But his size was a HUGE factor.


That he didn't use or impose his size is irrelevant.

By virtue of his size, there are may options denied to JMM or any other skilled smaller oponent.

A more evenly sized opponent could walk through many of his punches. I'm not saying he couldn't beat guys his own size (or, like SRR, bigger guys). But we won't know until he faces top rated oppenents at 147 or 154.

My guess is that a man with Baldomir's physical attributes and JMM's skill and heart, would find a way to beat him.

Williams, Mosley, Cotto, Margarito etc. ?

How would he do ?

We don't know for sure.


I don't agree that his reasons for winning on points rather than going for the KO were necessarily to do with putting on a master display.

It's equally possible he was being cautious, and didn't want to risk getting caught.

So does size matter here ?

Without a doubt !