Why p4p is complete bull****

Of course valuev would beat floyd... due to him being 5x's his size, not because of his ability.

but my question is , do you think valuev is a better boxer then mayweather?

I dont want to hear about other sports in this case as boxing is unique, in that yes.... how good you are is not always dependant on the fact that you may or may not be able to beat someone.

Like i said.... Kevin Mcbride very well could beat Izrael Vasquez... but Izrael is 10x the fighter and boxer that kevin is, but kevin happens to outweigh him by over 100lbs, and is multiple times his size. which dramitically effects the outcome.


Your confusing outcomes of fights, with ability..... when thats simply not the case when talking large differances in ones size.

And because boxing IS one of the unique and exceptions in that yes, you can very well be better at boxing, but lose to someone not in your leauge, but 50lbs heavier then you, is why people do these lists in the first place.

I dont know, i cant break this down any further.... its just simple logic.

Again, your equating outcome of a fight with ability, and also confusing outcome of the fight with being the better boxer and fighter. this is simply not true..... you have to use common sense.



Let me ask you, and its a yes or no question (because as you put it,
Pac and Mayweather are simply not as good at the sport of boxing as the Klitschkos, because in this sport in any direct confrontation they would lose.


*So, my question (again... its yes or no, based on your criteria)

Is Kevin Mcbride a better boxer then Izrael Vasquez or Erick Morales?
Is Chris Arreola a better boxer then Floyd Mayweather or Pernel Whitaker?

 

You said it better then myself, thank you :good

 

lol.... well then we will have to agree to disagree, because... they arent better at boxing in anything but being bigger, and because they are bigger, the smaller fighters will not be able to do anything with them, while they could hurt a smaller fighter with a jab practically... that doesnt make them better, just bigger.

but i see your point, and its just one of those things that its impossible to agree on, there is no way arreola is a better boxer then mayweather, morales, jmm, cotto, ect.... hes just bigger, which allows him to beat them in a direct confrontation.

Its like two hunters...
One hunter is riding on the back of a 4 wheeler up in the hills, shooting a sniper rifle at deer he sees football fields away with binoculars and scope... and he ends the week with killing 15 deer
One hunter has a bow, and is on foot, he has to track his prey, set up, ambush, ect... using skills, ability, knowledge, ect... at the end of the week he only kills 5 dear

Then going on saying how much better the first hunter is because he cought 10 more deer, because 'its all about results'

I dont know if that analogy makes sense to you, but thats the only way i can try to draw a paralell... and thats the way i see it.

 

Also to me its about respect... having a way to show respect towards ones ability, and what theyve done, which is why people put resume into it a lot. Ya i might think Williams would beat Mayweather, but i put mayweather ahead because hes fought and beat the better names. Not necisarrily because i think mayweather would beat williams.

 

Actually, i think if Vitali had been active, kept winning impressivly, stayed injury free, ect, ect... he WOULD be on some p4p lists. As also i think Wlad should be approaching the top 10 should he continue to win like he has.