*** The Mafaufau Sita aka David "Tuaman" Tua champ-by-40 Express!!! ***

If the ****er got properly involved, fought 4-6 times a year against Top 10 Contenders for the next year, then got himself a title shot at anyone not named Klitschko - then yes.

 

You're blowing smoke, friend.

Never did I say "Tua would definitely beat everyone except the Klitsckos" - that just came directly out of your ass. The original statement of mine that you quoted was itself conditional. And I quote: "If Tua comes in at least 70% or more of his old self against Cameron, he can beat anyone except the Klitschkos". It's only a page back, go ahead and take a little look-see. Maybe read a little more carefully this time around. You can pack up your smug little "have some of what you're smoking" **** and mind the door doesn't hit you in the ass on the way out. :hi:

 

News is that David is weighting 110kg ('bout 242 pounds) today.
Good weight for him, anything under 240 is gravy for this fight as far as I'm concerned. Cameron better be working on that jab, he's gonna need it to have any chance in this one...

 

I think since he got fat (I remember Gary Bell was his first fat fight) he does look to hit harder than when he was the 225lb Terminator trained by Lou Duva, but thats of course at a big cost to his workrate and footspeed, it was his amazing stamina funnily enough, that made his name , punchstat records vs Ibeabuchi and Izonritei and late come from behind stoppages.
I guess wasting Ruiz in 19 secons helped too lol but he was also known for his amazing relentless stamina, totally opposite to how he was vs Lennox.
When he was 250lb or whatever vs Obed Sullivan he was like a tank, slow but massive punch

 

Tua could have been seen to be struggling in the boxing desert since the Lewis "incident".

The way he fought that fight is consigned to history now,as is so many of the behind the scenes dramas that plagued his journey.

After a few fights here and there,followed by inactivity, he has finally ridden himself of the dark clouds that have hanging over him for so very long.

Looking at the Heavyweight scene today, i can see nothing but fresh and achievable challenges to confront, and so the chance of beating all the fighters mentioned by Intentional Butt are better than good.

So thats a maybe. a 50-50 perhaps. dont get hung up on it.just keep an eye open is all that can be done.

Time will eventually tell the full story......one fight at a time.

 

atsch It's pretty obvious that I was disagreeing with your claim that with even just 70 % of his old self he could beat everyone except the Klitschkos. Were you not definite on that ? You made the claim. I guess you're not that confident in it either, which is probably why you added those maybes after.

 

does anyone think Tua may actually be transformed into a mad beast,and come in at 100 percent better than he ever did?

well maybe not.

but better than the 70 percent,and that takes away the maybe so edit your Post Intentional Butt and remove the arguments your having, cheers :good :desk:freddy

 

Exactly....Tua is, and will be 100% !!!

 

How old is Tua?

 

You're being purposefully dense, yes? This has to be a put-on. :-(

What part of "can" don't you understand? How is the word "can" a piece of absolute, definite language? Did you play hooky from about 1st grade on?

I added maybes to the three that I give any chance against Tua. Not out of doubt, but because they're maybes (which doesn't actually contradict anything I'd previously stated). I still favor him over Povetkin, Chambers, and Chagaev - even though those three have much better chances than Arreola, Peter, Haye, Gomez, Rahman, and Valuev IMO. This still doesn't contradict what I originally said in the first place, which is that if Tua shows up at least 70% of his peak self he CAN (you seem to struggle with the definition on this one...there are plenty of free dictionaries on the web, take your pick) beat any heavyweight except the Klitschkos. And not only CAN he, but I personally favor him in any of those matchups. And consider him (assuming a 70+ percent version in a strong showing against Cameron) a sure thing against all but three. When I elaborated that those three could "Maybe" beat Tua..."but probably not" (which detail you've conveniently omitted), it still falls in line with the original statement that I made as it was worded. You choose to put other words in my mouth, like "Tua definitely beats every non-Klitschko 100% hands down no questions asked" - that's your problem. I never said anything like that. These nuances of "reality" seem not to jive with you, though. You're trolling, stupid, or both. This is an appreciation thread, and nobody wants you in here or appreciates your "contributions".

There, we should be fully disambiguated now. Care to further embarrass yourself? Need any more special attention?

 

Well said rm36 is gonna get tossed off this train while it's moving the thread is for fans who appreciate Tua why the hell is he trying to get into a pissing match to begin with I wonder.

 

Tua is 36. He is often written as 37. But why? He's 36. Here's an article on Tua and losing weight.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/2903475/Tua-must-not-trim-his-power

 

Tua began to gain weight when he fought Obed Sullivan. He went from 238 to 253. I believe that was when he left Lou Duva. Does anyone know when his last fight was with Duva?

 

Allow me to explain this to you again. You said that at just 70 % Tua can beat everyone but the Klitschkos. I didn't think that was true, that's why I asked if I could have some of what you're smoking. What you said was phrased in a way that suggested it was a definite. You said Tua at 70% can beat those fighters. That's a definite statement, genius. He definitely can do this. I disagreed with you. You later backed off of those claims by adding maybes next to the names of certain fighters. You contradicted yourself.

You didn't say maybe out of doubt ?

may⋅be  [mey-bee]
–adverb
1. perhaps; possibly: Maybe I'll go too.
–noun

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atsch

At 70 % he's a sure thing against all but three. So at 70% he can beat those three, unless of course he doesn't.:rofl:rofl:rofl You're a real rocket scientist. I can beat a grizzly bear in a fight, unless I can't.

Yeah, I feel really embarrassed for actually knowing what I'm talking about. :rofl

 

Here's a 30 minute feature on Tua and Cameron's camps talking and showing them in training with a lot of clips. Not sure if the link will work. Got it off the tv station. Was filmed last nite.

http://www.primetv.co.nz/Default.aspx?tabid=93&art_id=3586