They were just showing the Tyson Douglas fight on espn. I had heard people say it was a slow count when Douglas was dropped so I used a stop watch to time it, and Douglas was still on the ground on his knees after 12 seconds passed and he didn't completely stand up until 15 seconds. So I was wondering how exactly is it determined how long someone has been down for. Do they go by the refree arbitrarily counting using the good old fashion 1 mississipi system, or do they actually time how long someone is down for with a watch.
Tyson "f'd" himself by NOT going to mutual corner.. (Lost some seconds, Still all credit to Douglas for getting up)
It's only by the ref's count. Nowhere in the rulebooks does it say 10 seconds, it says until the ref reaches the count of ten. (I used to have a tape where HBO was replaying the fight just a couple of weeks after it happened, which included in studio interviews with Tyson Douglas, and a lot of other stuff. It also included their finding that the average ref takes 14 seconds to to count to 10). Also, Tyson got the same count, so the ref was being fair. If it was a slow count for Douglas, it was a slow count for Tyson too: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHcbFUTIslI (Although if you listen to Tyson's fanboys, the ref's count was fast on Tyson and slow on Douglas... :huh)
He was up at about 12 seconds... but it doesn't matter.. the ref was a few seconds behind and he was obviously going off of what the ref was saying, he seemed frustrated that he got caught and hit the canvas with his fist... You think he would have done that if the ref was already at 7 or 8 in the count? How do you know he wouldn't have gotten up sooner if the ref's count was on pace with the real count...?? Buster deserved the win, he pummeled Tyson that night and was the better night... Don King and Tyson's people appealed the outcome, but it was overruled due to the fact that the Ref's count is the official one, and he was behind.
It's up to the ref's own disgression how fast he counts to 10. Not an exact science, but that's how it's done in boxing. And often times a ref will interrupt a count to tell the still standing fighter to get back in their corner. I don't have a problem with that though, there should be a penalty if you're stupid enough not to stay in the neutral corner like you're supposed to.
the Tyson vs. Douglas controversies wil never die... why? because god damn ESPN Classic shows the damn fight every other day.
Tyson got his ass kicked, but that ref was sorry as hell. You can tell how incompetent and inexperienced he is just by watching his count for Douglas. He didn't even wipe the man's gloves after he got up! Douglas could have just as easily been counted out. Imagine that...another ref, and the history books would be so much different now...
Meyran, incompetent and inexperienced? He should have wiped Douglas gloves, but he was neither of those thing. He'd been reffing fights for at least 21 years by the time of Tyson-Douglas! http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=401189&cat=referee&pageID=1 Don't believe Don King's bull**** lies!