The Vitali I saw last night would of definetely lost to a prime Joe Frazier

At last, a Vitali fan with a degree of common sense and knowledge. I commend you for being able to admit that.

 

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Wlad is the same size as Vitali, around 240 and 6'7", so how does that work out? If Frazier was 6'2/6'3" he would struggle, but he's such a small and manouverable target that Vitali would have real trouble timing him. Major trouble.

 

And what makes you think Vitali would fight Frazier exactly the same way as he fought Arreola? What a bunch of nonsense.

 

Boo! Hoo!

So he did not let Areola knock him out!

Pathetic!

 

Yes at some point in the mid rounds he did land some good jabs. But early in the fight, he was just content in covering up.

I also think Vitali is hurt by those body punches to the left side when they tie up.

 

Try to keep your bias and hate out of your posts.

It makes you sound foolish.


Nearly any version of Frazier loses to most versions of Vitali.

Joe is a solid top ten ATG and Vitali probably barely scrapes the top 20.


But head t head, it's a bad night for Joe.

 

V.K. would either kill or seriously **** up either Frazier or Tyson with little problem in a time machine... Klit is just massive and good, and powerful for them lil' dudes who were once great for a short period of time....... Klit all the way, Jose.......
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Care to provide some reason's why and analysis as to why?

Frazier is 5'11", crouching down to about 5'5" with his style, and constantly and unpredictably moving his head for the duration of the fight. Vitali has poor timing, as he struggles to time Juan Carlos Gomez for about 7 rounds, and is 6'7½, meaning he has to and reach down to a guy about around a foot lower, who's constantly moving and bobbing & weaving.

 

Again, how do you expect Vitali to time a small and constantly moving target like a prime Frazier or Tyson when he couldn't time 6'1½ Juan Carlos Gomez for half of the fight?

 

I agree 100%. I can't see anybody beating the Klitschko bros. In the near future perhaps but not right now. As for a prime Ali, the way these brothers fight w/ their hands down, Ali would knock both of them out. No contest!

 

Ali went the distance with guys like Wepner, Bugner or Young. But he'd KNOCK OUT both Wlad and Vitali without the shadow of a doubt?

I'd say these would be highly exciting and competitive matches, but saying that Wlad and Vitali would have ZERO chance and 100% would be BOTH KNOCKED OUT COLD is a bit rich IMO.

 

Prime Ali beats any version of either Klitschko.

Some fans get carried away.

Ali and Frazier are two different kinds of fighter.

Ali had multiple styles and gameplans and could usually find a way to win.

Frazier had ONE style.

And it was usually enough to get the job done.

But when he faced a guy like Foreman, he didn't have a fallback plan.

As I already said, he ranks seven or eight on my HW ATG list.

But Vitali is all wrong for him.


He would be kept at range and eat a lot of jabs.

If he got inside, he would be open to Vitali's uppercut and/or tied up.

His style was never matched against a guy who was as big, strong, conditioned and technically proficient as Vitali.

 

About a year ago I wrote a lengthy post explaining why Ali would prevail against either Klitschko.

And got **** on for it by some of the more rabid Klit fans.

It was true, though.

 

who cares about the woulda coulda of a fight that never could have happened. So tired of this guy from this era would beat, wouldnt beat that guy from that era. We will never ever know