Kimbo Slice

Well looks like Dana has pulled off a blinder with Kimbo this year, this is the most active thread on the MMA forum. Say what you want about Mr White, but he knows how to do his job

 

Well, if Kimbo comes to the UFC and fails then it proves what he was always saying about how UFC fighers are skilled athletes and not bum street brawlers and all that, and if Kimbo wins then he gets to say "well, he only beat TUF guys so far, not REAL UFC guys, but now he's a UFC fighter and not an unskilled brawler so I'm still right" and THEN make a ton of money off of Kimbo, who already has a name without the UFC having to build him up from scratch. I'm not saying this is totally honest and the "right" way for a proper sport to operate, but from the point of view of a guy trying to sell a sport to as many people as possible, this is a very smart move by White.

 

They are one fight in; how can you possibly know if they are even an actual success, let alone that Kimbo is the reason for it?

He adds some new fans to be sure, but let's not get ahead of ourselves.

No credibility? He runs the best organizationnin the world, that speaks for itself.

As for Brock, the title shot was under a very special set of circumstances; there was already a interim title fight between Nog and Mir, Randy came out of retirement and still had the linear belt; Randy essentially came out of retirement to fight Lesnar. So it was really an entrance into a 4 man tournament. Rathe than forcing Nog or Mir to get screwed out of their shot, as well as screwing the other by forcing them to change who they were training for.

Most importantly, Dana has been PROVEN right in his gamble on Lesnar; talk shot on him all you want he was CLEARLY the best fighter out of the 4 involved; he stopped Randy early, and put a historic ass beating on Mir; outgrappling the best offensive guard in the division.

You talk about credibility but have absolutley zero becuase you are blinded by irrational hatred.

If you can't see that Lesnar is the best Heavyweight in the UFC and, at worst, the 3rd best in the world, you are just flat out ****ing stupid.

 

i think he meant a ratings success... and that IS down to Kimbo. The ex NFL players probably helped too though.

 

Well, I'm behind Kimbo to do well. I don't think he wins the show but I reckon he has the beating of Nelson. I'd like to think that if he wins and looks good in doing so then people will give him more credit. He is a bit stiff at times but with a bit more training and experience then he can mix it with anyone on TUF. Kimbo is marketable and this show has generated a lot of interest because of him.

 

Refuse to watch the show. It's absolute bollocks. Everyone on it is atrocious with the possible exception of Roy Nelson. Was a good move by Dana to put someone like Kimbo on it, but still the fighters are shite. It's amazing how someone so **** gets so much attention and fans.atsch

 

Why?

I think Roy is going to take him down and sub him or TKO him on the ground quickly.

 

I think Nelson becomes over confident and walks onto something early. I'm going against the grain on this one. :deal

 

You really need to chill out, I never implied that Dana discovered Kimbo and Im well aware that he fought for Strikeforce and his humble beginnings on youtube. I think your just lookin for an excuse to vent, you should try yoga, helps to calm you down :good
What I meant by my original post was that Dana is exploiting Kimbos popularity to promote the UFC brand. People familiar with Kimbo will maybe tune in to TUF for the 1st time expecting to see him kick some ass, and conversely hardcore MMA fans like your good self will tune in hoping to see him get his ass kicked. But the main point is people will be watchin to see how Kimbo does, which means Dana has done is job, promoting.

 

The point is that the risk that was taken on Brock to give him entry into a four man tourny basically, which you still don't seem to get, was proven credible by the results

 

Jesus christ.

 

Something you don't understand? Lesnar got a huge break by getting the fight with Randy; a combination of his popularity, how good he looked in his first 3 fights (mr Shark is a can no doubt, but Lesnar showed unique power by ending the fight with 2 inch hammerfists), and most importantly the fact that the #1 and #2 contenders were already signed to fight each other.

So yes he got a lucky break by getting an early opportunity to enter the unification tournent situation, no question.

The results of that speak for themselves; Lesnar went into a group of the 4 best HWs in the UFC and stopped the linear champ in fairly impressive fashion, especially since he did it with his stand up (which "sucks" according to you), and then went on to absolutley destroy the interim champ.

5 fights yes, one destruction of a can that showed good signs (taking down a good judoka and stopping the fight with power that is just unbelievable.)

A loss to Mir where he showed potential to be great but got leglocked by one of the best leglock guys in the division.

An absolute destruction of a gate keeper that showed several things that were very good signs that he would realize his potential; huge power on his feet, the ability to slow down rather than go 100% straight ahead like he did against Mir, and good stamina to dominate a guy for 15 minutes.

A knockout of the linear champion, where he showed he can come back from adversity and change up his gameplan as needed

A destruction of his only loss, who just so happened to be the interim champ.

So yes he got extremlu lucky with his opportunity, but it has been thoroughly proven that he was good enough for that shot; I hate to see guys who have put more fights in to get skipped over, but the fighters that were really in line for a title shot, Mir and Nog, were getting it too, and it would have been unfair to force one of them out of it and force the other into a different fight.

So there were guys more deserving, but he has proven that the risk they took on him was worth it, he beat everybody in front of him, and has shown himself to be the undisputed #1 HW in the UFC; likely the #3 or 2 in the world; not in terms of accomplishments over several years, but in terms of ability and wins, dominating wins, over champions in the very recent past