Vitali - Aside from wlad, does anyone stand a CHANCE of beating him?

Potompkin has a chance..boyoff or what ever his name is...are the only two that stand a chance.
Valuov don't.

Now if haye KO's Valuov in 3-5 we can talk him...but I really think a haymaker is a long slow punch that can be countered esp, if the man is much bigger with a nice short dry hook.

 

If Haye beats Valuev convincingly (thus showing that he can hang at heavyweight), then I'd pick Haye at this stage in their respective careers. Vitali is getting older and doesn't have many fights left, whereas Haye is in his prime and blazingly fast in terms of handspeed and reflexes. That's bad news against a guy who's almost 40.

On the other hand, one wonders whether Haye would have the power to knock him out. Vitali's always had an excellent chin, and Haye seems to tire--although this might improve at heavyweight now that he doesn't have to drain himself anymore.

 

I don't see anyone challenging Vitali.

Where Wlad has the vulnerabilities, Vitali doesn't and arguably, had he not been injured in both of his lost fights, he would have won them both.

That's not to say that this division is extremely weak, I think it stacks up against most eras, I just think you've got two Top 25 ATG heavyweights in action at the moment and both of these guys H2H would be my bet to beat anyone bar perhaps Lennox Lewis that has boxed at HW.

This is the era of the Super Heavyweight, like no other. No other heavyweight boxer had to deal with a 6'8 guy who was supremely skilled, had heavy hands and could evade punchers like a much smaller man, that's the dominant difference here, this is the first time the giants in the division don't fight like Julius Long/Primo Carnera.

 

Shaquille O'Neal :silly

 

Solis in shape

 

The pure boxers would have a chance. I think Chambers would not be that stupid to walk into counters all night without trying to set the big man up for something like Arreola. Not a Chambers fan, but style wise I think a bit of cleverness is needed to beat Vitali.

 

Too short and too hittable.

 

Even Ali himself for his era was a big HW. He was taller than near anyone he went in the ring with and the times he faced guys his own size who weren't just boxing bums, he always had a stiff challenge.

The era prior to this one had even less big HWs. Arreola is much taller than Byrd, Tua, Ruiz, Rahman, Tyson, Holyfield and as such, stands more of a chance fighting against the big guy who can also fight.

Lewis showed, you're virtually unbeatable when you're that much bigger than your opponent and possess skills of an equal level. Vitali and Wladimir have punctuated that point over the last five years.

Had Lewis not been lazy/unfocused, he'd never have lost. Wladimir doesn't have the fighting instinct that Vitali has, I think fighting is unnatural to him which explains his lack of composure earlier in his career.

 

Vitali is an accumulation puncher and he doesn't put full power on his punches early on. Because of his chin and boxing ability he doesn't go full throttle even when the opponents are wobbled like other boxers do. He methodically breaks them down. His punches are more powerful in the later rounds when he tries to finish his opponents.

 

I say when he winds up and throws big, he's as powerful as any other puncher in the business.

But he's a smart fighter, he works to his strengths and when your punch at 60% is the equivalent of haymakers from another fighter, you might as well use it to your advantage and boost the handspeed.

His finishing percentage being second to none indicates to me, that if you go 12 rounds with Vit, you're a ****ing beast.

Tua might manage it, very few others.

 

well done.

vitali knows he has the power but hes smart too - if you have a strength over other fighters utilise that and then play your main card when its time.

arreola, like peter and michael grant, were power hitters who relied on what they had to get them this far. they weren't good boxers - they were just heavy hitters and intimdating to fighters who didn't have the skill and smarts to counter it.

any fighter who reaches a level that doesnt equate to his skills usually fits into this category.

 

no

 

mike peres :good hes mike tyson reincarinated