Need some advice on certain attributes....

Discussion in 'Boxing Training' started by MikeBrown30, Sep 26, 2009.


  1. MikeBrown30

    MikeBrown30 New Member Full Member

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    Hey guys,

    I turned 22 a few months ago, and i've decided to start boxing. First off, is this too old to start (if I wanted to become an amateur, and possibly professional?)

    Onto my questions:

    - In regards to your chin, is it something you're born with? I know having big traps/a thick neck will help you out a bit, but is there anyway to improve chin strength besides getting hit, thus adapting to it?

    - What is the deal with running on the road? People have said the impact can be damaging to your knees unless you have comfortable footwear. True or a myth?

    - I have flat feet, will this be an issue? I've read you should always be up on the balls of your feet.

    - I haven't had a chance to look at boxing gyms as of yet, i've been in hospital this past month due to Guillain-Barré Syndrome (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guillain_barre). I was only affected from my waist down, so I was extremely lucky, I should be able to run within the next 1-1.5 months.

    Anyway, is a boxing gym still reputable if it doesn't have any professionals/top ameteurs training there on a regular basis? I live in Melbourne, Australia, so obviously there aren't as many big name boxers here in comparison to the U.S.

    - Sometimes I seem to be very sensitive in regards to headaches. On occasion I wake up with one, I can get one after running/sprinting or by doing any sort of quick motion if i've just been in a relaxed/resting state. So i'd imagine getting punched in the head won't be any different. In between rounds are you allowed to take pain relief such as paracetamol? Once I take paracetamol, i'm normally good for a week or 2, so it's not like i'm going to take it every round.

    Cheers guys, you've got a good forum here, i'm looking forward to posting & getting to know you all:good
     
  2. jimmie

    jimmie Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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  3. Dan

    Dan BiG DaN Full Member

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    hey welcome to the forum man the guy above seems to have summed up everything

    just wondering where abouts in melbourne you are as im from there too and know a few good gyms
     
  4. TommyV

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    Don't worry too much about the chin issue. Have confidence in your ability to take a punch, keep your hands up, chin tucked and roll punches and you'll be absolutely fine.
     
  5. MikeBrown30

    MikeBrown30 New Member Full Member

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  6. Bodi

    Bodi Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Everything you asked has pretty much been covered adequately so far, Mike.

    Regards the chin issue, one aspect that hasn't been covered and is commonly overlooked is neck flexibility - a flexible neck will absorb the impact of a punch far better than a strong neck which isn't flexible.
     
  7. joakim

    joakim New Member Full Member

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    hey Mike
    Im new at the forum as well today so sorry if its any mistakes here.
    Im also a beginner so can tell you much about the boxing specifics but im a physiotherapist and regards to your flat feet i would recomend you to buy some good shoes and rather jog in the forest or something. You can fast get shin splints or knee problems so take care of your legs.
    good luck man
     
  8. Holy ****, an old best mate of mine just got diagnosed with Guillain-Barré. He is pretty much completely paralyzed. its completely ****ed he has a kid and a fiance.

    im glad you're okay though isn't it extremely rare? Did you make a full recovery? what else do ya know?
     
  9. Perky300

    Perky300 Member Full Member

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    Are you sure? I don't think this is the case. A knock out is caused by the head being knocked back and when the neck gets hit back it momentarily blocks blood and oxygen going to the brain cuasing the knock down...

    so the stronger the neck the less likely your head will be jolted back, keeping blood and oxygen going to the brain
     
  10. joakim

    joakim New Member Full Member

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    I think i can answer you on this. Mike might know better but its very rear that people dont recover 100% from guillain-barre. But it can take a year before recovery starts. But its rearly anybody that dies from it or anything.
     
  11. Bodi

    Bodi Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yes, I am sure - you do not need to break down the methodology of a knockout to me. The actual cause of a knockout has been long debated, and no conclusive proof has yet been agreed on. Compression of the carotid arteries is one theory, which I believe is what you are referring to, but personally speaking, I don't buy into this reasoning. I do agree that it can cause a person to lose consciousness in certain cases, but I don't believe it to be the case in boxing. From the studies that I have read, I am of the opinion that trauma to the brain is the more likely cause in boxing, or with any sudden impact to the head (car crashes, falls etc). More specifically, damage to the cranial nerves, brain stem, blood vessels, contusions and perhaps even minor diffuse axonal injuries would be the more likely causes of a knockout where there are sudden impacts to the head.

    The way I see it is that your neck needs to remain strong throughout it's full range of motion, as with every other part of the body, hence my mention of flexibility. I am not suggesting that strength training should be avoided, but I am suggesting that to get the maximum benefit out of the strength training, you need to add in flexibility training. By solely relying on the strength of your neck to absorb punches is a one way ticket to long term brain damage imo.

    To give you more of an idea of what I am on about, look up isometric stretching, and apply it by having a partner hold a towel around your head and perform a series of isometric stretches, which will aid both strength and flexibility in your neck. You will find few better neck workouts anywhere. Add in neck bridges to this routine, which again, works both strength and flexibility, and you have a complete neck workout.

    As with all well rounded strength training programs, they will only ever reach their full potential where there is adequate flexibility in the muscles. This point is often overlooked, and needs to be given a lot of consideration when developing any workout, regardless of what part of the body you are training.
     
  12. Perky300

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    yeh i see your point, never thought about it that way. Just had the one idea in my mind...but i do believe that your neck snapping back and depriving the brain of oxygen is definetely atleast a cause of some knockouts in boxing, especially if you look at slow motion replays of knock outs, the neck and head is always jolted back but then again i can see that this would also mean sudden high impact which you were talking about.

    I personally don't see how flexibility will help prevent this as i believe it would be the intial power of the punch that would cause the sudden/high impact sensation that causes the knock out. By no means am i saying i'm right, just what i believe

    will defo take on board your advice for neck trainin
     
  13. TommyV

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    I'm glad you're okay bro. Best of luck in your recovery and with the boxing career. :good
     
  14. Bodi

    Bodi Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Speaking of impacts and such like, read up on coup contrecoup injuries. It is a very interesting subject, and is much of the basis of my earlier points.
     
  15. Dan

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    oh nice you live in East doncaster, im in Mitcham just a suburb or two ova lol
    not sure if there is anything real close to you but i go to Fighters Factory in Blackburn and it is great. It has an old school feeling and all the trainers are past fighters. As for professionals the top fighter there is Oyewale Omotsomo who is number 1 welterweight in Aus i think. I was introduced to him on my first time there and he convinced me to keep coming back :) Its a pretty busy gym so and just like others you have to be serious and train hard if you want people to pay attention to you. It is right on the train line which is good too. The only drawback is the cost i guess but its well worth it. I personally just go to the circuit training as im a beginner and only 17 but after ive finished vce im gonna start taking it more seriously
    well heres the website, hope to see u there some day lol
    http://www.fightersfactory.com/