Too many weight divisions ?

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Stevie G, Sep 29, 2009.


  1. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I sometimes get the feeling that there are too many weight divisions around. Multiple catergories with only a few pounds dividing them. I feel that the cruiserweight band is essential though,owing to the ever increasing size of heavyweights. Would something like the eight traditional divisions plus cruiserweight be more constructive,or should it be left as it is ? Food for thought though. A 210 lb Muhammad Ali had no problem competing with an eight pounds heavier Sonny Liston. And in turn,Joe Frazier was n't hindered by Ali's 10 lb weight advantage in Superfight 1.
     
  2. Andre StrongRod

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    Yes, I wouldn't mind seeing a few go away. the bigger problem though is all the ABC organizations.
     
  3. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Tell me about it ! There should only be one world champion per division. Let's hope that one day,the alphabet organisations will grow up and sort something out.
     
  4. Neverchair

    Neverchair Boxing Addict Full Member

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    There could be an argument to add a super heavyweight division with the emergence of fighters like the Klitschkos and Valuev. ???
     
  5. essexboy

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    Its something I've thought about but I could see a super-heavyweight division becoming an outcast like cruiserweight. It would certainly improve the hevyweight situation though imo. Perhaps with a super-heavyweight division cruiserweight could be terminated.
     
  6. GDG

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    There are too many weight division in the lower categories. I understand the Maths this is calculated by, but when you see the amount of multiple weight champions in the lower weight classes compared to the heavier guys...I think it shows there are too many!!!

    Super heavy is worth considering. Or how about making LHW 180 and CW 210??

    On another note, how do you consider the HW's in P4P?? For instance, should Haye lose to Valuev giving up nearly 100lbs, should the vast weight difference be taken into consideration when analysing their respective P4P rankings, or are we slaves to the weight categories that have been laid out??
     
  7. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yes...they could eliminate most all junior divisions...retire 122 in honor of Wilfredo Gomez...like you would retire a jersey...and all others except for jumior welter...one of my favorite divisions.
     
  8. djanders

    djanders Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If it was up to me, I would eliminate the cruiserweight division, too...but I'm an old fart...what do I know? :nut
     
  9. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not too many.
    do you want size differences to be even bigger ?
    do you want Williams vs. Hatton because hatton can't make 135 and williams can make 147 ?

    catchweight fights are good too.
    the organizations are understandable.
    the problem is people who recognize the organizations or consider a certain belt/title an achievement.
     
  10. MrMarvel

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  11. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I would only keep the classic eight and a Cruiserweight division that is bumped up to 205lbs.

    There is no need for anymore, you just dilute the sport otherwise.
     
  12. janitor

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    Well it has not exactly been a sucesfull weight class.

    If you feel strongly that the smaller heavyweights need protecting from their larger brethren then a better solution than a cruiserweight division might be to move the light heavyweight limit up effectivley splitting the curent cruiserweight class.
     
  13. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Call me a sadist but yes.

    It would sort out the man from the mouse.
     
  14. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    it will only make 50% of the boxers today physically challenged , put them at a twisted disadvantage , and won't sort anything but those who can drain themselves to 147 from those who can drain themselves to 137 but not 135 , those who can get to 175 of those who can make 162 but not 160 , etc. that's all. what's holly about the 'traditional'/historical weights ?
    so hatton is a mouse. good for you.
    so is pac i guess.
     
  15. My2Sense

    My2Sense Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think a lot of the junior/super divisions at the higher weights were necessary. History is littered with tons of fighters that were basically "too big" for middleweight and "too small" for LHW, for example. Jr. and super MW classes were a very good and long overdue idea IMO.

    However, I think they could've done a better job with the lower weight classes. Ideally, they should've been reorganized rather than new weight classes simply added. Having different weights only a few pounds apart, like 115, 118, and 122 is too close together IMO. I think ideally, those weights should be spread out at least a couple pounds farther. Of course, once the weight classes are in place and champs/contenders are already set up there, you can't "redo" the classes.

    As has been said, I think a far more hurtful idea than having too many weight classes is having 20,000 "champs" in each class.