Diaz New Name "El Pollo" and he deserves it.

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  1. TonyD407

    TonyD407 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Fair and Square????

    Did u see diazs face / his corners face / and his parents face just before
    the decision was called out ......DOES THAT LOOK LIKE A FIGHTER WHO HONESTLY THOUGHT HE HAD ONE THE FIGHT........NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Did his corner look confident after the final bell .........NO!!!!!!!

    "THEY ALL KNEW HE HAD LOST" :deal:deal:deal:deal
     
  2. anarci

    anarci Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    They were worried cause they saw the same fight we all did,which was a close fight. Of course they were worried,there more intimatly affected by the outcome than anyone else watching on tv or in the stands. It was close and diaz won, so paulie should watch the tape,and remind himself that close fights dont always go your way. Hey paulie why didnt you fight herman ngodjou the guy that kicked your ass but they gave it to you? **** happens but paulie wasnt robbed 114-113 get over it ,it happens:roll:
     
  3. Jeff Young

    Jeff Young Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Now I don't like to use punch stats round by round to say a guy won that specific round.....I score the fight live or on replays without using punchstats....then I use the punch stats to back up my scoring....I had it 116-112....best case for diaz was a draw imo...

    paulie was the more active fighter by a mile throwing more....now paulie landed more overall by 12 punches....he landed more punches in rounds 1,3,6,9,10,11........diaz landed more in 2,4,5,7,8,12....overall punch stats its a draw if you go by connects.....however paulie's activity and another important aspect of scoring a fight is ring generalship...paulie clearly controlled the fight in this department...

    how i came-up with my 116-112 paulie....round 4 i gave to malignaggi, who was only outlanded by one punch in the round, however, he controlled the round at his pace.....and for me the most effective cleanest punch of the night was the malignaggi jab.....that's why I gave round 4 to him, punch stats backs up my claims, with malignaggi outlanding diaz in jabs....along with better activity in that round.....I also gave the 12th to paulie, based on a same conclusion along with round 8....final scorecard 116-112 paulie...

    Now the few diaz people will say well he landed the power shots, once again the most effective cleanest punch of the night to score was the malignaggi jab....the punches juan did score was sloppy shots and were hard to see....people say he outlanded paulie by 43 powershots, but then I will counter and say the most effective cleanest punch was the malignaggi jab....where he outlanded diaz by 55 more jabs....conclusion paulie wins this fight.....
     
  4. Ben Grimm

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    I don't care what any says Paulie lost the fight. Running around the ring throwing a jab that doesnt even land is not giving a boxing lesson. He's crying like a *****. Ngoudjo didn't cry when he didn't get the decision against Paulie and everyone knows Herman beat his ass across the ring. That fight right there was a robbery. This fight was very close but I saw Diaz winning it. Diaz is in position to call the shots, a position Paulie wish he had. I wish Paulie would retire. He says "**** boxing" whenever something doesn't go his way. If thats how he feels he can go roll on the ground w/ those other dudes over in MMA. I heard it doesn't take long to reach the top there
     
  5. Jeff Young

    Jeff Young Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    oh wow:patsch

    that running around the ring is called ring generalship, paulie was the matador to the baby bull**** aka now a ***** diaz all night!....juan diaz is a joke, the guy refuses to get out of his own hometown, and when they try to stack the deck in his favor they still have to pull **** scoring to win....diaz is officially a *****...
     
  6. anarci

    anarci Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :good:good:happy Perfectly said "Ben Grimm" ..Let me ask you a ??? "jeff young" and be honest. Who would you rather watch a non stop guy like Diaz or a sissy slapper like paulie?
     
  7. Jeff Young

    Jeff Young Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    see this is the problem with some boxing fans, in boxing you don't have to be a KO artist....I myself am a fan of the sweet science....I know i'm the minority....but give me a mayweather, hopkins, paulie anyday of the week over the crude one dimensional KO artists, or in this case, the one-dimensional crude pressure fighter in juan diaz hell, diaz is just a featherfisted as paulie, he just grunts like a ***** when he throws his punches......boxing is not all about KO's...

    I score fights on clean effective punching, activity, and ring generalship....juan diaz lost in all 3 categories against paulie...
     
  8. anarci

    anarci Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Okay hey i appreciate a fighter with skills too. Just trying to make my point,but diaz landed the more effective punches and was pressing the fight, activity seemed the same (i havent seen the stats) but i know punches landed were pretty equal,but diaz landed bigger harder shots. Paulie did show good ring generalship thoug,but you act as if diaz is some limited bum crude? I see skills with diaz. Not the classic boxer type but hes got good skills. Also diaz might not be a big puncher but he definitly hits harder than Malifaggi!!! Malifaggi outjabbed him but didnt out fight him!
     
  9. Carlos Primera

    Carlos Primera Boxing Addict Full Member

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    tsk tsk tsk. Diaz needs to man up and give paulie that rematch.
     
  10. Jeff Young

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    well the punch stats show paulie had more activity by far.....the actually landed shot was only 12 more by paulie.....diaz outlanded paulie by 43 in power shots, and paulie outlanded diaz by 55 in jabs....

    and to me as with most who watch this fight....the malignaggi jab was the most effective punch.....and people forget that a jab counts the same as a power shot....its a connect.....then if your judging a fight.....pressing the fight is not the same as "activity".....activity is throwing more shots....paulie dominated him in this category....

    google malignaggi-daiz punchstats....you will see what I'm talking about...

    and why was it that paulie's face looked ok to normal....while diaz was cut up...not once but twice....and instant re-play showed one was caused by an uppercut the other by a malignaggi jab....larry cole who is a **** ref asked the judges if a cut was caused by a punch or a headbutt, and lederman said as a ref your not supposed to do that...

    I never said diaz was a bum, I just thought with a stacked deck, paulie fought his fight, while diaz seemed out of his game most of the fight....especially the second half....and people say paulie was running....I noticed diaz who has no skills at cutting off the ring at all, paulie moved where he wanted....I have never gone after diaz personally till today, when he backed out of a re-match his own promoter already approved of......to me that makes diaz officially a *****....

    hbo wanted the re-match, most boxing fans wanted the rematch, paulie wanted the rematch, golden boy promotions wanted the rematch, but diaz and willie savannah didnt want it......marquez and hatton arent going to waste their time with juan diaz at this point, like savannah said they probably wont fight till 2010 now....paulie was their best option anyways...
     
  11. anarci

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    Ok they should fight then! But diaz won that fight. If paulie threw was somuch more active(punch stats?) and they basically landed the same amount,well that means paulies activity was meaningless cuz he missed so much. You cant go by how the fighters looked. If thats the case chavez taylor fight wasnt controversial and not even close cuz meldrick looked like a monster and chavez had a small nick on his nose. So dont go there. Like i said in the beginning it was razor close but diaz won,and if diaz wants to leave his options open he should be able too. Now if nothing comes up in the next couple months he should fight paulie, but its not paulies right cuz he lost. If i was diaz i would go for cambell or wait for hatton and marquez(bigger money) if not kick paulies ass in vegas. Cause if they go to newyork they try and get some kind of "supposed"payback
     
  12. jjax

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    I think he beat you Paulie. So do most credible people I think.
     
  13. Jeff Young

    Jeff Young Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    most editorial writers gave paulie the nod....why can't diaz man up? his own promotional company agreed to the rematch......the baby bull is a baby calf in reality...
     
  14. Jeff Young

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    the problem with this is golden boy promotions agreed to the rematch in chicago, neutral site....but diaz manager said no, they wanted more money, and a catchweight.....when they asked diaz, he said i reffer everything to my manager....diaz said no mas, no gracias.....
     
  15. anarci

    anarci Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Then thats on his manager,diaz is just doing what all of the old timers did(leaving it up to managers) and many guys still do today.Nothing new here