Why do boxing fans put up with PPV?

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  1. Losfer_Words

    Losfer_Words Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I've often wondered this. Why? Would football or F1 fans put up with it all the time? Why are we always shafted? People can say, 'it's because it's only a one-off event', but, if you go along with that point of view, then why aren't the FA Cup or Champion's League finals on PPV?

    The obvious answer is, 'to make money', but my question is, why is it that boxing (and I suppose some MMA) fans are treated like this continuously? If it's a feasible model then why are networks not charging PPVs for every other sport on British TV? Also, if people want to argue the case that 'TV networks can't make advertising revenue early in the morning' that's false as well- plenty of motosports and American sports fans watch their sports in the early hours so why are boxing fans treated differently?:think

    Rant over:good.
     
  2. Mr Blair

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    Said almost the same in the 'Super Six Deal Announcement' thread, plus last week laughed at the fact speedway and horseracing get more coverage in another thread.
     
  3. brown bomber

    brown bomber 2010 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Because we're in the minority, yet passionatly faithful.
     
  4. moorser

    moorser Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    becuse unfortunatley for us boxing fans most people dont give a **** about carl froch and the likes of him
     
  5. Mr Blair

    Mr Blair Member Full Member

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    Spose we gotta get ripped of through paying to watch, because at least in boxing, we don't have to buy new home and away strips every season.
     
  6. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    The obvious answer to this is that everything is relative. The people who sell the rights to the motorsports and American sports events that you watch in the middle of the night are not asking for multi hundreds of thousands of pounds for a single couple of hour event. Relative to the amount paid to show the event, the small advertising revenues are fine. Relative to 300 grand or whatever for a couple of boxing matches, they are not fine.

    Any argument that takes the line 'x tv station shows x sport so we can't they show boxing' but doesn't take into account the relative costs and potantial viewing figures for each event is basically a completely worthless argument.
     
  7. Losfer_Words

    Losfer_Words Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You could say that about British American Football fans as well, Jeff. My brother in law stays up for games every week and I'm sure he's part of a small, hardcore community that enjoys American Football games live in the early hours. He doesn't pay PPV, though:think.
     
  8. Mazallan

    Mazallan ESB yes man Full Member

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    Boxing must cost an heck of alot to show on tv.
     
  9. robpalmer135

    robpalmer135 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    I think boxing works on PPV if done properly.
     
  10. GladiatoR

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    Simple;

    Boxing isn't big enough.
     
  11. theuppercut

    theuppercut Blackpudding supper Full Member

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    I put up with coz I have no other choice. I ****ing detest streams. And I missed a lot of boxing in the 90s when my folks never had Sky so this is me making up for it. And at the end of the day, for me, I don't mind paying £15 (not including Khan cards)
     
  12. Larryboys

    Larryboys Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Becase it's worked. When boxing was first put on ppv, people bought it. They tried it with football over here and it didn't work, so they gave up on the idea. Why it worked with boxing, wrestling and MMA but not other more mainstream sports I don't know, but if people are willing to pay then the powers of those sports aren't going to stop taking their money out of the goodness of their hearts.
     
  13. Losfer_Words

    Losfer_Words Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm just interested as to why boxing is so special that it's on PPV as opposed to other sports. I never had Sky Sports as a child growing up either (my parents didn't like sports) so I buy PPV now as well like the majority of others on here. What I'm asking is why boxing is on PPV in the first place? Why not other sports with small fanbases like American Football as well?
     
  14. Harry Chibber

    Harry Chibber Active Member Full Member

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    My question would be why does it have to be so expensive?? £15 is ridiculous... £5 or £10 is going to be more appealing to the average punter and rather than people gathering round the 1 tv set at their mates they would be tempted to pay a cheeky £5 and watch it at home??
     
  15. GazOC

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    I guess the NFL can get money back on the UK merchandise, the Wembley etc. they can put the late night games out on the cheap in the UK and regard it as advertising.

    Boxing promoters don't (or can't) do the same thing. They can't rely on most of their top boxers being long term money makers like the NFL can with its franchises so they take the short term view and try to rake it in as quickly was possible.