:rofl You nearly got me fired. I appreciate your enthusiasm for the sport, Addie. Welcome to the club.
Tough to say. The film is scant, it isn't exactly of great quality, and he's more subtle. Go check out his physical stats and take a look at box rec.
Only fight 3 never mattered as both were past it, the 2nd fight was huge & Leonard made Duran quit, less of the favouritism bull**** please.
Please tell me you are not talking about the actual scorecards, the utterly ridiculous judges scorecards that had Duran ahead after 12/13 rds vs Hagler.... anyone with eyes in their head knows Hagler should never have been behind at that point & he won the fight very very clearly. If we`re kidding ourselves that judges are the be all, then I could say I agree with the judge that had Ray a 118-110 winner over Hagler (after all, he`s a judge, lets just trust the **** shall we ?) but I dont because I have my own mind & eyes. What Leonard did vs Hagler was way more impressive than what Duran did vs Hagler, believe that ****.
Nobody in SRL's camp has ever suggested that he could have beaten Marv over the championship distance at any time in their careers, or it would have come off. Earlier in Saccharin Ray's career, Hagler expressed a willingness to meet him in a shorter nontitle affair, and even this was rebuffed. SRL shrewdly discerned that his only chance to ever steal a decision over Marv was after he observed a decline in the older Hagler's handspeed and reflexes against Mugabe. Of course we never saw Duran attempt this with that level of idleness, but he was more of a freak of nature than SRL was. In peak condition, and at 30 years of age (as SRL was for Hagler), I believe it's entirely within the realm of possibility that he could have done this. It bears noting that while Duran was coming of the massacre of young Davey Moore, he was still the older and smaller man when facing Hagler, being nearly two and a half years older at the time than SRL was in 1987. My comment about his observations of Hagler's performance against Mugabe have helped provide me with a second single word to describe Saccharin Ray: Shrewd He managed to get as much (if not more) mileage and publicity out of what he did not do than what he did do. Compared with Duran and Hagler, Saccharin Ray's period of activity as a top performer is incredibly brief and condensed, despite the fact that he never competed in less than top condition. Duran was far better against Camacho than he was, and Roberto's longevity at the world class level utterly dwarfs SRL utmost potential.