Toney-Jirov scorecards, please.

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  1. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Upon reviewing the last few rounds, I was shocked to catch a glimpse of Lederman's card going into the 12th...he had Vasiliy up 105-103, meaning that without the knockdown Toney would have lost. :blood

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rz8cmqjfWBA

    The official scores are far more reasonable.

    I think Harold's been shot as a judge since he switched tables. He wasn't that bad back when his professional opinion actually counted.
     
  2. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Lederman's "critera" is a bit ****ed sometimes.

    "Jirov was the one doing the pressuring!"

    And who was landing all the clean punches again, and more of them, Harold?
     
  3. My2Sense

    My2Sense Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yes he was, he was one of the judges who scored for Ali in his third fight with Norton.
     
  4. GDG

    GDG Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I had Toney winning, but not as clearly as the judges on the night.

    I think I had it 7-5 Toney with 2 points deducted for Jirov.
     
  5. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Oh. :oops: Well..:lol:
     
  6. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    It was a competitive fight but Toney clearly won.
     
  7. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    He also had Duran Williams two points ahead of the other judges before being stopped. He just really doesn't like Toney at all. :think Although to his credit he did have him winning comfortably close in the second McCallum bout.

    He also probably gave Floyd Sr. too many rounds against Starling.
     
  8. horst

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    For me Toney-Jirov is THE fight that should be used in the examinations at Judges School. Anyone who scores for Jirov is not cut out to be a judge. Anyone who scores for Toney makes the grade. I can easily see why an uneducated eye would think Jirov had won this fight, because of his aggression, pressure and activity levels. But there really can only be one winner. Toney does far less 'work', but his accuracy and elusiveness are superb throughout, and the KD seals the deal pretty indisputably. I thought the actual judges' scorecards were pretty much bang on.
     
  9. MrMarvel

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  10. klompton

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    People forget that Lederman got his gig at HBO because of the controversial way he scored Holmes-Spinks.

    That being said I had Jirov winning going into the last round and thought Toney pulled it out with the KD.
     
  11. KOTF

    KOTF Bingooo Full Member

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    Last time I saw this I had Toney ahead 7-5 or 8-4. The highlight of the fight was when Steward got all giddy when Toney KD'ed Jirov and said "He better pull a Julio Cesar and run across the ring!!!!"
     
  12. Thread Stealer

    Thread Stealer Loyal Member Full Member

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    I think I had Toney up by 3 or 4 points when I first watched it.

    I never re-scored it. If I did, I have a feeling I'd have Toney farther ahead.
     
  13. Mendoza

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    7-5 or 8-4 for Toney.
     
  14. Boro chris

    Boro chris Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I allways felt McCallum won that very clearly. Not close at all.