Where do people stand on the Morales vs Pacquiao II weight issue?

well i'm out guys, addie have fun with these guys....hyperbone is an ok cat, and enzo is a hugger(no offense)....

 

bye jeff. see you next time:good

 

you and your shitty thread! :good

 

His career at 126 was just as impressive as his stint at 122 brah and many felt EM won the FIRST fight with MAB and many felt MAB won the rematch. Sure his handspeed slowed.....when you move up in weight that **** happens. For most at least. Guys like Floyd and PAC operate on anther level.

I'm not disputing that EM looked skinny for the rematch homie...I didn't dispute that at all. I said for the rubber match or the 3rd fight Arum and the El Teribble team took extra measures to ensure that EM was in GREAT physical condition in hopes to turn things around form what took place in the 2nd fight.

Agian....being PAST your physical prime doens't mean you aren't operating on the highest levels of the sport. MOST aren't in their Physical prime when they are at their very best! B/c when most fighters are in their prime they haven't had the kind of ring experience and championship experience to better their craft as a professional boxer.

At 23 yrs old EM may have been young and fast, but he wouldn't have been able to beat the version of MAB that he lost to in 2004 b/c he would have lost on experience. At some point EM was at his overall best and that would have been sometime in 2003.

 

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You make valid points and you have strong arguements, but everyone has their own way of thinking and opinion. I don't mind that you don't agree with me. ..To each their own. At least you try to back up your stance which is far from many who seem to disagree with me.

 

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122lbs was morales prime weight. he looked unbeatable during that time, you might think he got rocked a few times but he had a granite chin and he really looked good at that weight (meh, high school days, i used to see some of his fights on tv lol). i believe pac vs morales at 122lbs would have been a good fight with morales winning a late tko or a ud.

126 and 130lb version of morales he never looked as good as he did on SBW, although his skills are still on top level. Addie is on point on that regard to tell you the truth.

 

Oh, really now? you seem to be contradicting yourself at the moment, why so serious addie? :yep

 

Ya know...your right. I had it backwards. :good I have studied all 3 of the mexicans careers. MAB, EM and JMM. They were some of my favorite fighters in the early 2000s and EM was my fav in the late 90s.

I don't buy the whole shot thing b/c EM was able to beat Diaz....or at least he won the fight but lost on paper. You don't move up to a new division and beat a champion if you are shot. That just doesn't make sense.

EM was only dominated by Raheem who wasn't a B level fighter. He wasn't a great but he was a very good and capable fighter who was highly touted and only lost to Rocky before EM. Who was the "2nd B Level" guy EM lost to?

No one does blow EM away...no one Blows MAB away or DLH away or Ricky away eitehr. The common demominator is PAC. PAC is a truly special fighter who is a great who is still fighting. Sure EM probably wasn't at his overall best but he was still very good and capable of beating most at that weight.

At 126 he beat some really good names and had some dominating performances. I think he did his best work at 126 and was at his best at 126 b/c he peaked by then. PAC peaked just this year and this is the best PAC we've seen. I think this version of PAC beats MAB, EM or JMM at their overall best.